Guild Wars 2

Any video of some mesmer playing GS sw/p in pve/dungeons?

I like that weapon set (also using full berserker equip) and i don t want to change despite the range issue.

But coming from an ele i started using a sort of “rotation” even with mesmer just to have the most shatters/skill use possible.

Now this rotation plays like (obviously its just to give the idea because any rotation varies according to situations):
GS4, GS3, GS1 swap
Pistol4, pistol 5, roll, shatter
Sw2, sw3, mirror images, shatter*

Issue i have….
I need to stay mid range with GS.
before i could go back in GS i need to get some distance (out of sw1 range) and i lose 2-3 seconds >.< before weapon cooldowns

Am i playing wrong?
Any suggestion PVE only? (means dungeon/fractals mostly).

*Also given the fact that the 4Th shatter skill is for defense, and the first is for raw damage, wich should i use in PvE while shatter 1 is coling down?

Ty u.u

Well, Mesmers are good at burst damage when it comes to shatters. I’m not to sure how good a shattering build is at long term dps so I can’t comment. However, most of your attack rotation is AoE so that’s a bonus.

In dungeons I find I like using an optimized Phantasm build. It’s a bit weaker on AoE since it isn’t shatter optimized, but the iWarden used correctly with Focus 4 → 4 can be a sizable AoE burst. Otherwise, the iWarlock and the iDuelist are heavy hitters against single targets.

Personally I almost never use the 4th shatter in PvE on a full clone combo. If you trait self-shatter, most enemy attacks are singular obvious attacks. Save it as a kitten button for when you can’t dodge/port out of its hit.

A suggested shatter combo:
GS4, GS2, swap, roll up to target shatter #2
Sw3, mirror images, shatter #1
Sw2, roll back, pistol5, pistol4, roll back, shatter #3 (doing this will stagger your shatters, which is what you want for shatter 3)

A combo like this will lay in 3 shatters, prevent taking most damage, and end with you back in GS range. If you find you are quicker than the weapon combo, you can slip in a portal drop in your sword combo and one at the end of the rolls so you can port up to give a quick sword smack and trigger an enemy attack (thus having him keep a distance) and port back. Alternatively you could blink forward (low health mob you can just finish with a smack), or away for a stronger GS1 or if things went wrong. Of course situation dictates combos, and repeating combos will get you killed in PvP.

On bosses, though, I go phantasm. If you flip on phantasm damage, haste, and bleed on crit, phant longterm DPS will beat your shatter burst. However you have other items to consider beyond the straight numbers – shatters can lay on confuse, bleeds, and vulnerable stacks if traited. I have not crunched the numbers to see which really wins after you factor in the condition damage, but I would rather be lazy and too many bosses have invuln throwbacks to hit melees with. A hybrid build (20/20/0/0/30) is pretty nice as you can flip major traits on the fly to fit GS, phantasms or shatter builds.

Basically in PVE this is how i start every fight (roughly)

Mirror Blade, Dodge roll into mob, Decoy, Mind wrack, Dodge roll out, swap set, duelist, Leap, Swap position, whatever 2 is, imba dps while phasing, roll out, Mind wrack should be up again, shatter. Repeat. Depending on the situation, I will throw mirror images out for my other shatters, and i do use all of the abilities, but this is the jist of it ^ Basically i spend the whole fight trying to only run in for shatters, and try to time my sword 2 skill so that when i finish it, and roll out, wrack will be up again

Also like the poster above, i may switch my talents up for some fights where phantasms can stay up, and spend 2/3 of it in GS spamming 1 and stab while i let the phantasms wreak havoc, it only works on select fights though

really useful i ll try it ty a lot °L°//

there’s no style to it, you play like a spam bot. Start chain with vulnerability (gs skill 2) or zerker if he’s running away. SO its gs skill 2, zerker, swap to sword/pistol, magic bullet, dualist, leap, blurred frenzy/F1/F2/F3 spam or mirror image/decoy/roll for closnes so F2 deals more damage and F3 gives more daze but if you want to be a true spam bot don’t bother and just spam F1-F3 on blurred frenzy lol or at least that’s what i see the most in spvp, all copy pasted mesmers doing the exact same thing.

LordByron.8369:

Any video of some mesmer playing GS sw/p in pve/dungeons?

I like that weapon set (also using full berserker equip) and i don t want to change despite the range issue.

But coming from an ele i started using a sort of “rotation” even with mesmer just to have the most shatters/skill use possible.

Now this rotation plays like (obviously its just to give the idea because any rotation varies according to situations):
GS4, GS3, GS1 swap
Pistol4, pistol 5, roll, shatter
Sw2, sw3, mirror images, shatter*

Issue i have….
I need to stay mid range with GS.
before i could go back in GS i need to get some distance (out of sw1 range) and i lose 2-3 seconds >.< before weapon cooldowns

Am i playing wrong?
Any suggestion PVE only? (means dungeon/fractals mostly).

*Also given the fact that the 4Th shatter skill is for defense, and the first is for raw damage, wich should i use in PvE while shatter 1 is coling down?

Ty u.u

I usualy do the following:

GS4, GS2, Dodge back (to create illusion) then Mindwrack
swap
Pistol 4, pistol 5, sword 3 (close the gap and create illusion), sword 2, roll, CoF, retreat

I pretty much never use GS3 because it’s kitten… I hope your OP was a typo :P

MW might be more raw damage but don’t underestimate CoF as a secondary source… it does..ok… initial burst damage and there’s always a chance for like 2k extra confusion damage.

no it wasn t a typo…
But i think i ll use GS2 in his place from now on >.>
one of the reasons i was asking for help…

It seems i underestimated GS2 ._.

GS2 is a 3 stack vuln and a clone creator. What more could you want on a shatter precursor?

tried gs2 >.> changed some fight bar skills.

I now have an endless army to shatter ._.