Glamour Skill - Rework

Glamour Skill - Rework

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Posted by: Angel de Lyssa.4716

Angel de Lyssa.4716

The skill of Glamour are currently somewhat loose. The more usable is “The Portal”, but the others skills Glamour, are little using in general.


Feedback Create a dome around your foes that reflects projectiles in duration of 6 second, adding a area ethereal of radius 240.

The Wall of Reflection of Guardian it is much better that “Feedback”, only for the 10 second of duration and the line of reflect in the selected area.

I propose:

Feedback – Create a dome in the selected area that reflects projectiles.

Shield Duration: 8s
Number of Targets: 5
Radius: 240
Combo Field: Ethereal
Range: 1,200


Null Field Create a field of energy that rips all boons from foes and cures conditions on allies. A duration of 5 second in a area ethereal of radius 240. Each pulse remove a buff on a enemy and remove a condition on allies.

It not being unblockable it is very imprecise and the enemy dodges it too fast, also so a guardian with “Aegis” prevents remove buff.

I propose:

Null Field – Create a field of energy in the selected area, that rips all boons from foes and cures conditions on allies.

Boons Removed: 1
Conditions Removed: 1
Number of Targets: 5
Pulses: 5s
Duration: 5s
Unblockable
Radius: 240
Combo Field: Ethereal
Range: 1,200


Portal Create an entry portal at your location that teleports allies to your exit portal.

This skill is very usable and it used much, would not do any changes.


Veil Create a wall that grants stealth to you and your allies. A duration of Stealth of 2 second, in a line area of duration 6 second.

2 second of stealth for a recharge of time 90 seconds (72 seconds with the trait grandmaster), is very poor, only by not have limit of give stealth on the allies… is very in focus for WvW, because for pvp and pve is not usable, It’s basically as if we had not the skill.

I propose:

Veil – Create a field of energy in the selected area that grants stealth to you and on allies.

Stealth: 3s
Duration: 6s
Number of Targets: 10
Radius: 240
Combo Field: Light
Range: 1,200
Recharge Time: 45 seconds


And for to finally, rework the trait grand master “Enchanter Temporal” by:

Master of Enchantment

Glamour skills have a new effect aditional.

Feedback: Inflict confusion on enemies and apply retaliation on allies when them entering or leaving on the area.

x2 Confusion (5s)
Retaliation (5s)

Null Field: Remove a buff aditional on the enemy, and cure a condition aditional on allies.

Boons Removed Aditional: 1
Conditions Removed Aditional: 1

Portal: You and allies when enter or go out of the portal, grants a little stealth and swiftness.

Stealth: 1s
Swiftness: 1s

Veil: Now also reveals enemies on the area and grants resistance on allies.

Resistance: 3s
Revealed: 3s

Time Warp: Now inflict chilled on enemies in the area and superspeed on allies.

Chilled: 1s
Superspeed: 1s

Glamour Skill - Rework

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Feedback Create a dome around your foes that reflects projectiles in duration of 6 second, adding a area ethereal of radius 240.

The Wall of Reflection of Guardian it is much better that “Feedback”, only for the 10 second of duration and the line of reflect in the selected area.

I propose:

Feedback – Create a dome in the selected area that reflects projectiles.

Shield Duration: 8s
Number of Targets: 5
Radius: 240
Combo Field: Ethereal
Range: 1,200

While I agree with your judgement, I believe the current situation is intentional. Guardians are all about protecting allies while mesmer skills are usually defensive + offensive at the same time. So putting the field on the enemy was a way to show this difference, make it appear “more offensive”.

On the other hand, reflects are already very situational, but reflects on an enemy which can just move out of it is worse…

Null Field
Unblockable

I wasn’t aware of the fact that aegis just denies the whole thing. So… yes, unblockable makes sense.

Veil
Stealth: 3s
Number of Targets: 10
Radius: 240
Recharge Time: 45 seconds

This is in part what I suggested here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Why-does-veil-have-such-a-long-CD/first

and this thread may be what started yours. On the other hand, restricting to 10 target would kill it in the only place where it is currently used. So I don’t think that is a good idea.

“Temporal Enchanter”

I am actually very happy with the trait “in principle”. The duration increase makes sense for many of the skills + “super speed + resistance” synergies well with most of the skills:

  • time warp with super speed makes sense thematically
  • veil with super speed means you can become invisible and move very fast in stealth to surprise your opponent
  • same with portal
  • null field with resistance means you can sustain the condi burst before the pulses cleanse it
  • feedback… well it’s nice to be faster and have resistance…

The only problem I see with the trait is that it does not work well because you have to be on the field when it is cast. This is absurd for portal or veil which you normally cross + feedback which is cast on the enemy.

Change this so that the effects are applied when you cross veil + portal or when you enter the other glamours for the first time (including if it is cast on you), and it would make perfect sense.

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Posted by: Pfiffikus.5817

Pfiffikus.5817

Actually I would like the whole Glamour skill type mechanic to be reworked.

In GW2, as per definition, “Glamours are fields on the ground, which have helpful effects on allies or harmful effects on enemies.”

I think this is just to similar with the Wells skill type mechanic and since we get them as Chronomancers, I would like to see Glamours mechanic to be changed.
So, what can we do to change this?

Let’s see.
First of all what is Glamour?
For me, Glamour is all about self presentation. That’s why they should be cast on the mesmer.

But in GW2 we already have Buffs which are cast on yourself and they are called Auras. Auras in GW2 are, as per defintion, “…irremovable buffs, causing harm to foes and/or benefiting the user in some way when attacked.”

I like that, but I don’t want Glamours to be exactly the same as (GW2) Auras, but more like Auras we know from other Games.

To summarize what I have written before:
Glamours should be cast on yourself and follow you like an Aura but also should keep its supportish character and affect allies and/or enemies which enter the area like a Well.
Or in short: Wells + Aura = Glamour :-)

The Skills should pulsate every second and give their effects for 1 second every second when you are inside the Glamour. If you step out of the Glamour as an Ally or Enemy you will lose its effect.

Glamours wouldn’t be combo fields anymore.

So, how could the skills of this type look like?
Feedback
- Duration: 3 sec
- Pulses: 3
- Radius: 300
- Number of Targets/Allies: 5/10/all?
- reflect projectiles

Null Field
- Boons Removed: 1
- Conditions Removed: 1
- Number of Targets: 5/10/all?
- Pulses: 6
- Duration: 6s
- Radius: 300

Portal
- Duration: 120s
- Range Threshold: 5000
- This skill is a strange one, but it could be changed to: you set the Portal Entre somewhere on the ground and then the mesmer will be a walking Portal Exeunt and every Ally using the Portal entry will be teleported next to the mesmer.

Veil
- Stealth (1s): Invisible to foes
- Revealed (1s): when attacking
- Number of Targets: 5/10/all?
- Pulses: 5
- Duration: 5s
- Radius: 300

Time Warp
- stays the same

Glamour Heal
- Initial Self Heal: 4,XXX
- Health per Second: 400
- Number of Targets: 5
- Duration: 3s
- Pulses: 3
- Radius: 300

Trait: Temporal Enchanter
- either Duration Increase: 2s or Recharge Reduced: 20%
- Feedback: Allies gain 1s Retaliation per pulse, Enemies 1s Confusion (per hit?)
- Null Field: Allies gain 1s Resistance per pulse, Enemies 1s CC-Condition or Daze per pulse
- Portal: Allies gain 3s Stability or 3s Protection on Arrival
- Veil: Allies gain 1s Swiftness per pulse
- Time Warp: Allies gain 3s Superspeed
- Glamour Heal: Allies gain 1s Regeneration/Vigor/Aegis or whatever per pulse