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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

This is a new build I was made for guild wars 2 for the Mesmer. It focuses more on condi damage based off of your illusions, with a touch of you adding bleeds as well. let me know what you guys think. Thanks guys

Jeff

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Posted by: Wise.8025

Wise.8025

Tried builds similar to this before, and I didn’t personally care much for them, but I’ll give yours a try too because if there’s a way to make a build like this work it should be lots of fun.

Time elasped: 40 minutes.

So I tried it out and it’s amusing to use vs low rank players. They end up being completely bewildered by what I am doing.

Highest rank I played against was a rank 29 in the tourney matches I played. I sadly won’t get to try it out vs some better players tonight. It was a lot of fun using this spec and seeing the massive number of conditions on my targets. They can’t keep up with condi removal with this spec, but there is very little between me staying alive and me being dead. To be most effective I had to be in melee range and as an evasive glass condi spec there were several times where it was touch and go. 1v1’s went well, but as soon as there’s aoe I was hurting, and 1v2’s went down hill fast. With a thief as back up dps there was no difficulty killing 2v3 and at their near point and having them stream back in for more.

All in all it was fun and I’d recommend it to a friend.

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Posted by: Taerik.3405

Taerik.3405

This is a neat build, I wasnt aware dodge exploding clones counts as clone death, because shattering doesnt, nice to know

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

This is a neat build, I wasnt aware dodge exploding clones counts as clone death, because shattering doesnt, nice to know

Indeed, hope you enjoyed it

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Posted by: Italyguy.4128

Italyguy.4128

This is a neat build, I wasnt aware dodge exploding clones counts as clone death, because shattering doesnt, nice to know

WHAT?! Well this makes things a lot more fun, I had no idea

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

This is a neat build, I wasnt aware dodge exploding clones counts as clone death, because shattering doesnt, nice to know

WHAT?! Well this makes things a lot more fun, I had no idea

Yes Indeed, yeah I hope you have fun with it.

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Posted by: ashleydoll.8563

ashleydoll.8563

Not bad, I used a similar build when I first started playing Mesmer in PvP and it worked well in a lot of scenarios. What this build is incredibly good for is being able to deal with bunkers, it obviously takes a while, but you should be able to kill any bunker in the game with a build like this. So, in fact, it is not completely useless for high level PvP, seeing as how it’s getting common to deal with teams running up to 3 bunkers.

Wise raises the point, however, that you are even more on the cusp of death than ever before with this type of build. Especially when one of the ever bothersome glass cannon Thieves decides to show up and ignore everything while bursting you down.

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

Not bad, I used a similar build when I first started playing Mesmer in PvP and it worked well in a lot of scenarios. What this build is incredibly good for is being able to deal with bunkers, it obviously takes a while, but you should be able to kill any bunker in the game with a build like this. So, in fact, it is not completely useless for high level PvP, seeing as how it’s getting common to deal with teams running up to 3 bunkers.

Wise raises the point, however, that you are even more on the cusp of death than ever before with this type of build. Especially when one of the ever bothersome glass cannon Thieves decides to show up and ignore everything while bursting you down.

Yeah that’s true, it does have it’s pros and cons like any spec.

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Posted by: Vexien.4790

Vexien.4790

Just to clarify, do regular overwrites also count as clone deaths? You never seem to mention that, but I don’t know if it’s because it doesn’t work or because dodging is much more reliable.

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Posted by: yvesbeaumont.3291

yvesbeaumont.3291

my new build! i love making clones a threat whether you kill them or not.

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Posted by: plasmacutter.2709

plasmacutter.2709

How do you reconcile the cripple on clone death vs lowered staff cooldowns, especially using a sword where you have sword 3 for a cripple if needed?

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Posted by: Wise.8025

Wise.8025

How do you reconcile the cripple on clone death vs lowered staff cooldowns, especially using a sword where you have sword 3 for a cripple if needed?

I think he was just going for anything that had to do with illusion death, but I asked myself that same question and played around with traits and gear to tweak it a little. The continuous cripple is definitely not a must vs all classes but it sure is nice vs melee. Anybody that’s capable of kiting you with some condi removal will be a problem without the continuous cripple unless you transition to a different strategy vs them. In which case the CD helps a lot with that.

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

Just to clarify, do regular overwrites also count as clone deaths? You never seem to mention that, but I don’t know if it’s because it doesn’t work or because dodging is much more reliable.

Yes the overwrites do count as clone death’s. And I should of been more specific but I did say the word overwrite in the video but I only said it once.

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

How do you reconcile the cripple on clone death vs lowered staff cooldowns, especially using a sword where you have sword 3 for a cripple if needed?

Well the sword in my opinion doesn’t work too well. Since this spec is based purely off conditions the staff has a wider selection of conditions. As the 2h would only apply bleed “with sigil” or vunerability. The staff for me would be a better choice. Therefore taking the cripple.

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Posted by: yvesbeaumont.3291

yvesbeaumont.3291

loving this build right now!