Help with PU Mesmer build for WvW roaming

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Posted by: tantibus.1986

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I play tpvp as a shatter mesmer and have never ventured into the PU Mesmer field. I would like suggestions or reference to a build from those who play PU on a regular basis. Basic to advanced rotations would be great.

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Posted by: EnderzShadow.2506

EnderzShadow.2506

Natsus Blackwater

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-The-Blackwater-Mesmer-Condition-WvW/first

There are only a few things I would do differently
1-Traveler runes instead of perplexity
2- energy sigils on weapons = clone on dodge

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

I use basically the same build in WvW as I do when I run it in PvP, except I do use perplexity runes and embrace the slowness.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-A-Mesmer-Guide-to-Solo-Queue/first#post4060868

I have my build linked in there, along with a somewhat comprehensive guide for how to use it.

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Posted by: EnderzShadow.2506

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@Pyro, do you embrace the slowness in WvW too?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

@Pyro, do you embrace the slowness in WvW too?

Yep. I always have a focus though, so I’ll swap that constantly when I’m not in combat for swiftness. I also do constant phase retreat swaps to move faster, and 1200 blink helps too.

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Posted by: EnderzShadow.2506

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More power to ya. Swapping out focus is a pita.

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Posted by: eldenbri.1059

eldenbri.1059

The biggest decision is whether you’re doing condi with something like the Blackwater or doing phantasm. Condi tends to be more survivable but slower in traveling and slower in killing easy targets (I think – I don’t play it). Phantasm allows you to have travelers runes without any real penalty, faster burst, but less survivability.

I play a phantasm (or phantasm hybrid because you’ll get a fair amount of damage from bleeds, torment and a bit of confusion) build. There are tons of other variants, but mine currently looks like this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhQQNAR7ansISZa2oGupB3aGJ1IM996LJHCK5XIA-T1iIABkt/QPKp+6KA4n6DFqCjOKT2RpAAPEgF0IsluA6UCGAABgV+chLchrzCBYeBA-w

Pyro generally makes the point that eventually in WvW, you end up in a 1v4 and the condi PU build is the only way to survive. I think it depends very much on your server, play times, and play style. I have about 8800 WvW kills and 3500 camp captures – about 80% of those are solo. I very rarely find myself in a 1v4, and I don’t mind dying if I get in that situation. I lose more 1v2 fights than I win, but my skill is decidedly average. More importantly for me, those fights are exciting.

In terms of rotations, I usually try to get a duelist up and switch to get the zerker up before I’m in combat. This weapon set is designed to fight from distance, so I usually throw mirror blade from a distance and don’t get the might bounces (but it will bounce off the zerker to get two hits on the target). Look for interrupt opportunities because bountiful interruption is very helpful. Stealth to reposition and cast phantasms. For even more burst, cast duelist, cast ether signet and cast duelist again.

While I screw up sometimes, I think this build can beat basically any other build. It can certainly beat a PU condi Mesmer since you don’t ever need to attack the other Mesmer directly. Good thieves are hard, but being able to put up duelists quickly and having magic bullet is nice.

Good luck!

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Posted by: wads.5730

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another mesmer joins the dark side

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Posted by: neptunechild.4831

neptunechild.4831

I used to run a Blackwater Build (PU condi) which works great, with the best survivability. However, with this build, I always feel like my enemy could disengage whenever they want cuz I had to wait for the conditions to tick down.

Just recently, I switched to a PU hybrid build and god I kicked so much more kitten now. With around 1800 power, 1650 toughness, 600+ condi dmg, 190 crit dmg, I feel like i can burst a lot more dog with considerable defense and survivability.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAR8alwzKqHTTsGbNJipHBnvBcnKAdkKoalUgbXIA-jkCBYLBCpBmiAi+AmEBIHqIaslhFRjV7ATViIq2boIa1SBAzwI-w

With blink and GS-4, I can easily chase down those who escape, which is something I could never get out of from PU condi build.