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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

So my chick just started playing and used a bunch of gems and gold and xmute stones and makeover kits on a Mesmer since that’s what she wanted to play… I would say around 200g of stuff already… And the Mesmer is only level … 13 -_- lol… But not gona get mad over a game…

I have never really got into playing. Mesmer but I guess since it’s already this far deep into investment I might as well play it also,

Aside from actually playing the class which I’ll get down, how can I act like a clone to trick people even more?

Tips like walking stopping turning how to act more like a clone NPC to confuse people even more?

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

don’t use auto attacks and count to 1 before using the next chain

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Posted by: frifox.5283

frifox.5283

Don’t move unnecessarily. Walk in straight lines. Attack once every 2 seconds. Don’t dodge. Randomly, stop attacking until you die…

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

You don’t. Skilled opponents will always recognize which is the real mesmer instantly, so you aim your playstyle to beat those skilled opponents. You use your toolkit to avoid/disengage/etc, but not to fool people.

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Posted by: DeathReign.7821

DeathReign.7821

Confusing players into thinking that you’re a clone only works against people who are new to PvP and have never played a Mesmer themselves.

There are SO many ways to tell the real Mesmer from the illusions, and most of them don’t even involve looking at what the Mesmer is actually doing. (Although if you see it dodge or cast anything other than an auto attack you know it’s the real one).

Chances are, if your opponent is having a hard time finding the real Mesmer, what you actually do doesn’t really matter that much.

Having said that though, if you DO want to act like a clone, take two steps towards your enemy and autoattack. Don’t strafe, don’t keep moving. Literally stop and auto attack. That’s what a clone does. Don’t walk while attacking either, for clones simply don’t do that.

Kiss the chaos.

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

I guess that makes sense since when I usually fight a mes I can tell except for when they’re invis or blinking to the other side of my screen, worst than a thief sometimes..

I suppose it’s that mentality of mines from playing a new class on how it’s “suppose” to be based on the description..

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

It’s funny how our defensive mechanic that our cooldowns, durations, and coeffients, are balanced around is a gimmick no one other than A-net devs and testers, or anyone under r20 on the old system fell for.

We can act like clones but that’s a lot of standing around. Clones could be more responsive but that’s more programming than anyone is willing to do.

“I control time and space; you can’t break free.~”
“Maybe I was the illusion all along!”

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Posted by: Absconditus.6804

Absconditus.6804

Unfortunately, it’s true enough that you simply can’t act like a clone to fool anyone. ArenaNet has made sure of that. Basically, all an opponent needs to do, is to tab-target quickly. You will have buffs on you that your clones will not, guaranteed. Plus, well, the clones are made of paper and die if you look harshly at them.

The only use for clones, is to confuse really new players, or to Shatter. If you’re not playing Shatter, shatters are worthless. If your shatters are worthless, your clones are too pretty much. They deal no damage, and they die when looked harshly at. As much as I like the combat I get out of Mesmers, I find myself returning more and more to Guild Wars recently. At least our Mesmer there had some options. At least we had cool skills, skills that worked and felt rewarding to use.

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

They should just give every profession laser beams out of their eyes. They do no damage, but instantly disintegrate clones, so people can literally kill clones by looking harshly at them.

It will also get rid of all the tab targeting complaints vs Mesmers…

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Posted by: Dracatis.1908

Dracatis.1908

I think Illusionary Persona should hide all facts that you are not a clone. All signets, mantras are hidden whenever you are in combat and any targeting on you is removed when a clone is made.

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Posted by: Zach.3264

Zach.3264

Don’t bother wasting your time trying to act clone-like.
Anyone with decent experience will spot you no matter how hard you try.

You’re better off just spamming clones and having them explode. It’s far more effective.

Trying to determine who is who between 3 clones and you, or having clones constantly running around and exploding in your face.

Keep you and your clones moving (by shattering), in and out of stealth and porting around is the best way to confuse your opponent. Don’t try to blend in. It won’t work against majority of players.

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Posted by: Menaka.5092

Menaka.5092

Now we have chickens playing mesmer. Where will this class go next?

(I’m sorry. I’m not a native english speaker and I find the use of that word to describe a person quite distasteful)

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Now we have chickens playing mesmer. Where will this class go next?

(I’m sorry. I’m not a native english speaker and I find the use of that word to describe a person quite distasteful)

…what?

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

Now we have chickens playing mesmer. Where will this class go next?

(I’m sorry. I’m not a native english speaker and I find the use of that word to describe a person quite distasteful)

…what?

I second that what

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Posted by: Malakin.2809

Malakin.2809

Actually acting like a clone can give you 1 or 2 seconds that may make a difference in tight fights (if no one moves like the real mesmer then the enemy needs to target the clones to check for buffs). It’s best when you use a staff: just stand there and autoattack. Because the attack takes time to reach the target it’s not as noticeable where it comes from and how fast you’re casting it. But anyway it’s not really something you want to be using often. In my opinion, an improvement to the class would be for the clones to copy all the boons (also sigils, mantra charges, food, bloodlust and possibly conditions) of the mesmer on creation.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Actually acting like a clone can give you 1 or 2 seconds that may make a difference in tight fights (if no one moves like the real mesmer then the enemy needs to target the clones to check for buffs). It’s best when you use a staff: just stand there and autoattack. Because the attack takes time to reach the target it’s not as noticeable where it comes from and how fast you’re casting it. But anyway it’s not really something you want to be using often. In my opinion, an improvement to the class would be for the clones to copy all the boons (also sigils, mantra charges, food, bloodlust and possibly conditions) of the mesmer on creation.

Acting like a clone will only give you 1-2 seconds against bad players…and if they’re bad players the fight shouldn’t be tight.

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

Would it be OP to have a 30% chance on creating a clone for all enemies targeting to the mesmer to drop target? (including the big red target sign) and then atleast our token stealth will have it’s use as a 100% drop but isn’t solely relied on? And yes PU nerfs should be properly included (like 1 boon every 2 seconds)

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Posted by: Absconditus.6804

Absconditus.6804

Yes, that would be too OP. We have that ability already, it’s called Stealth.

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Posted by: Malakin.2809

Malakin.2809

Acting like a clone will only give you 1-2 seconds against bad players…and if they’re bad players the fight shouldn’t be tight.

Could you explain why only bad players?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Acting like a clone will only give you 1-2 seconds against bad players…and if they’re bad players the fight shouldn’t be tight.

Could you explain why only bad players?

Against good players:

You will be targeted, either with or without a true target lock. You can’t just up and start acting like a clone, you have to drop that target first. How do you drop the target? You stealth. Unfortunately, stealthing itself targets you as the real mesmer. Clones don’t stealth, so when you enter stealth that allows your enemy to note all of the clones. Clones don’t unstealth, so exiting stealth allows your enemy to once again note you as the real mesmer.

There’s no possible situation against a good player where they won’t know the real mesmer.

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Posted by: frifox.5283

frifox.5283

Stealth. Then, stay right on the guy or somewhere close by (to prevent clone all too obviously charging at the enemy in straight line) and then use Decoy, Mirror Images, or simply dodge to proc Deceptive Evasion. Clones generated while still stealthed, enemy confused… ?

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

First rule of mesmering – don’t act like a clone. :p

(you can have moderate success against bad players, but it’s a waste of time/effort against good players).

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

What, did you think one of mesmer’s strengths was supposed to be misdirection OP?

Since apparently the devs do, and acting like a clone is about as much misdirection as a poorly labeled treasure map.

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