Guild Wars 2

I just made a post in the bugs section here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Huge-Mesmer-Bugs/first#post1537494

To show the devs the bugs we are experiencing from this patch, including :

1. Spear auto attack doesn’t hit anything under water (hit box issue)

2. Clones in WvW are spawning without weapons.

If anyone has any other bugs they want to add plz go to the thread and place your input. Thank you.

Noticed both of them last night. Thought the guy I was fighting was just bugged out underwater at first. Clones with no weapons is a huge problem once people catch on. It’s already too easy to identify the real mesmer.

Haha i was wondering what was hitting for 5-10dmg yesterday makes sense now why stuff was taking soooooo long to kill

At this point it seems like a good ‘is the patch ready?’ Step would be to make sure clones still spawn with their weapons in all game types – this isn’t the first, or even the second, time a patch has gone live and neutered our mechanic in a game type.

Stiv.1820:

It’s already too easy to identify the real mesmer.

I dont think clones are meant to be a way for you to hide indefinatly, just a way to cause a little havoc, alot of people in WvW wont be checking for weapons in the hands of clones anyway so as far as i’m concerned its just a graphical bug that’s causing no real issue.

You can see people fighting me and still attacking my clones here…..

http://youtu.be/RhGe_BtHDX0?t=2m55s

samski.5194:

Stiv.1820:

It’s already too easy to identify the real mesmer.

I dont think clones are meant to be a way for you to hide indefinatly, just a way to cause a little havoc, alot of people in WvW wont be checking for weapons in the hands of clones anyway so as far as i’m concerned its just a graphical bug that’s causing no real issue.

You can see people fighting me and still attacking my clones here…..

http://youtu.be/RhGe_BtHDX0?t=2m55s

My that’s selfish of you.

“It doesn’t effect me, so therefore I don’t see it as an important issue.”

Just because you are fighting scrubs that can’t tell whether someone or something has a weapon equipped doesn’t mean the rest of us are, and it also doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t having issues with our core mechanic being bugged. Just because you say you are fine.

Illusionary Leap no longer applies Cripple. The Illusion doesn’t even do an actual “Leap” like he used to, instead he does a very rapid charge at the enemy, stands there for a second, then starts attacking.

All in the name of balance, lads.

Yea clones aren’t spawning with weapons o_o

Torch is bugged. Zerker is bugged. Spear is bugged. Clones are bugged.

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Just because you are fighting scrubs that can’t tell whether someone or something has a weapon equipped doesn’t mean the rest of us are, and it also doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t having issues with our core mechanic being bugged. Just because you say you are fine.

Could you please clarify what evidence you have that I’m fighting scrubs ?

I believe the Mesmer core mechanic to be shatters…….could you please clarify how this bug effects this ?

I would suspect from the lack of attention that both of your threads are getting from the Mesmer community that most Mesmers, not just myself are managing fine with this bug……perhaps your struggle is a learn to play issue and you are trying to blame on a bug due to the fact you find this fact hard to believe ?

samski.5194:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Just because you are fighting scrubs that can’t tell whether someone or something has a weapon equipped doesn’t mean the rest of us are, and it also doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t having issues with our core mechanic being bugged. Just because you say you are fine.

Could you please clarify what evidence you have that I’m fighting scrubs ?

I believe the Mesmer core mechanic to be shatters…….could you please clarify how this bug effects this ?

I would suspect from the lack of attention that both of your threads are getting from the Mesmer community that most Mesmers, not just myself are managing fine with this bug……perhaps your struggle is a learn to play issue and you are trying to blame on a bug due to the fact you find this fact hard to believe ?

It’s not game breaking or anything, just annoying. I have two friends gearing out mesmers to have exactly the same char model, armor and weapons as mine for max confusion, this is a hit to that idea.

samski.5194:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Just because you are fighting scrubs that can’t tell whether someone or something has a weapon equipped doesn’t mean the rest of us are, and it also doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t having issues with our core mechanic being bugged. Just because you say you are fine.

Could you please clarify what evidence you have that I’m fighting scrubs ?

I believe the Mesmer core mechanic to be shatters…….could you please clarify how this bug effects this ?

I would suspect from the lack of attention that both of your threads are getting from the Mesmer community that most Mesmers, not just myself are managing fine with this bug……perhaps your struggle is a learn to play issue and you are trying to blame on a bug due to the fact you find this fact hard to believe ?

Your argument is flawed and short sighted. And you are clearly fighting scrubs.

But regardless it has been fixed. WvW clones now hold the appropriate weapon.

samski.5194:

I would suspect from the lack of attention that both of your threads are getting from the Mesmer community that most Mesmers, not just myself are managing fine with this bug……perhaps your struggle is a learn to play issue and you are trying to blame on a bug due to the fact you find this fact hard to believe ?

Going to have to stop you right there man. They are pretty bad bugs and need to be addressed. The only reason this thread isn’t getting as much attention is that there are a lot of other threads with the same issues reported, and those have gotten a bit more attention. I’m glad that you’re managing and that it’s sufficient for you. I’m managing too, but the difference is I don’t like that I have to. The class SHOULD work the way it’s designed to.

Seems like there are a few people out there that think not wanting to put up with bugs is a negative thing. Why? Why stay silent on a matter if you think something is wrong? The more visibility that an issue gets the more likely it is that the issue will be resolved. Not saying something gains you nothing, and I can’t understand the attitudes of some people these days.

They just fixed a lot of this, didn’t they?

I don’t think the iZerker has been fixed yet… Which is superbly annoying

Is the iLeap thing a bug, or intended? Did they nerf iLeap and just “forget” to put it in patch notes? Referring to the cripple…

I hope not! But honestly the iLeap swap combo happens so fast now that a lot of people haven’t noticed it… I do wish they would stop ninja nerfing us while advertising all the improvements that are in the patch.

jportell.2197:

I hope not! But honestly the iLeap swap combo happens so fast now that a lot of people haven’t noticed it… I do wish they would stop ninja nerfing us while advertising all the improvements that are in the patch.

Yeah, happens super fast, when everything works out…but that cripple is pretty big. At least for my playstyle. iLeap has always been (since BWE) pretty finicky…getting hung up on seemingly benign terrain, not firing off at all (when I would have SWORN I was in range), and just overall a pain to work around. IF the cripple has been nerfed, it’d be pretty annoying.

crewthief.8649:

jportell.2197:

I hope not! But honestly the iLeap swap combo happens so fast now that a lot of people haven’t noticed it… I do wish they would stop ninja nerfing us while advertising all the improvements that are in the patch.

Yeah, happens super fast, when everything works out…but that cripple is pretty big. At least for my playstyle. iLeap has always been (since BWE) pretty finicky…getting hung up on seemingly benign terrain, not firing off at all (when I would have SWORN I was in range), and just overall a pain to work around. IF the cripple has been nerfed, it’d be pretty annoying.

This is very true! ANet we love that you made this unique class and we know working all the bugs out is tough… but could you guys just stop touching us til all bugs are fixed? Errry buff you give us comes with ridiculous bugs that overshadow the buffs by ALOT. Except well shattered strength but that was silly… (even though thieves can get 20stacks of might easy)

KnattyDreads.1856:

Your argument is flawed and short sighted. And you are clearly fighting scrubs.

Care to point out how its flawed ? In the clip I link they are scrubs, thats one clip…..

Harbinger.9645:

Seems like there are a few people out there that think not wanting to put up with bugs is a negative thing. Why?

If this is aimed at me could you please point out where I said not wanting to put up with a bug is negative ? Read my first post in this thread……I stand by what I said in it.

Clones are not a way to stay hidden amongst them indefinatly. Anyone who is not a scrub in WvW wouldn’t have to look at your clones to check for weapons as they will quickly pick up on the real mesmer.

So I stand by my closing statement that it caused no real issue.

Yeah, it truly is getting a bit tiresome having to QA these patches. I mean I get it that these games are very complicated, but come on. iLeap is SO important for a melee Mesmer to lockdown an opponent, I really, really wish they’d just fix the pathing and all the other related issues. I’ve run Sword MH since BWE 2, and Mesmer is my main, i’ve very nearly perfected the gameplay…and skill number 3 STILL tricks me from time-to-time, lol. And please, for the love of all that’s holy, let us know that the lack of a cripple is a bug and not yet another ninja nerf.

That’s all good and well that good players can see through the clones to begin with buttttt… lets look at staff clones… on some toons the staff is taller than the player… At that point its obvious to anyone who isn’t a toddler where the real mes is… Clones need to confuse people SOME what.

samski.5194:

KnattyDreads.1856:

Your argument is flawed and short sighted. And you are clearly fighting scrubs.

Care to point out how its flawed ? In the clip I link they are scrubs, thats one clip…..

Harbinger.9645:

Seems like there are a few people out there that think not wanting to put up with bugs is a negative thing. Why?

If this is aimed at me could you please point out where I said not wanting to put up with a bug is negative ? Read my first post in this thread……I stand by what I said in it.

Clones are not a way to stay hidden amongst them indefinatly. Anyone who is not a scrub in WvW wouldn’t have to look at your clones to check for weapons as they will quickly pick up on the real mesmer.

So I stand by my closing statement that it caused no real issue.

What are you even arguing about? It’s clearly a bug. Why shouldn’t anyone who plays this class want this fixed? I fool good players with clones all the time.

samski.5194:

If this is aimed at me could you please point out where I said not wanting to put up with a bug is negative ? Read my first post in this thread……I stand by what I said in it.

Clones are not a way to stay hidden amongst them indefinatly. Anyone who is not a scrub in WvW wouldn’t have to look at your clones to check for weapons as they will quickly pick up on the real mesmer.

So I stand by my closing statement that it caused no real issue.

It’s more centralized around a growing trend of responses that seem to display this attitude. To be fair I don’t see where you explicitly say this, but the implication is that because the bug isn’t affecting your play style it’s not, as you say, a “real issue”.

It affects other people’s play style and it’s obviously a bug, so yes…this is an issue.

crewthief.8649:

What are you even arguing about?

People putting words into my mouth…..I never once said it wasnt a bug, I wouldn’t class it as a hugh bug, defiantly not bigger than the stealth bug.

Harbinger.9645:

It’s more centralized around a growing trend of responses that seem to display this attitude. To be fair I don’t see where you explicitly say this, but the implication is that because the bug isn’t affecting your play style it’s not, as you say, a “real issue”.

It affects other people’s play style and it’s obviously a bug, so yes…this is an issue.

It’s because I never explicitly said it and the OP replied to my first post with a fake quote that I never said so I defended myself against his response.

Well then, I will put my knives and pitchforks away then. We can have peace.

samski.5194:

crewthief.8649:

What are you even arguing about?

People putting words into my mouth…..I never once said it wasnt a bug, I wouldn’t class it as a hugh bug, defiantly not bigger than the stealth bug.

Harbinger.9645:

It’s more centralized around a growing trend of responses that seem to display this attitude. To be fair I don’t see where you explicitly say this, but the implication is that because the bug isn’t affecting your play style it’s not, as you say, a “real issue”.

It affects other people’s play style and it’s obviously a bug, so yes…this is an issue.

It’s because I never explicitly said it and the OP replied to my first post with a fake quote that I never said so I defended myself against his response.

Sorry, didn’t know he edited the quoted post. Fair enough.

Kilo November.4268:

All in the name of balance, lads.

lol so we’ve been told since the nerfing began during BWEs

samski.5194:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Just because you are fighting scrubs that can’t tell whether someone or something has a weapon equipped doesn’t mean the rest of us are, and it also doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t having issues with our core mechanic being bugged. Just because you say you are fine.

Could you please clarify what evidence you have that I’m fighting scrubs ?

I believe the Mesmer core mechanic to be shatters…….could you please clarify how this bug effects this ?

I would suspect from the lack of attention that both of your threads are getting from the Mesmer community that most Mesmers, not just myself are managing fine with this bug……perhaps your struggle is a learn to play issue and you are trying to blame on a bug due to the fact you find this fact hard to believe ?

There is no question. They were scrubs. Not to knock on your own skill – you lasted as long as you did irrespective of skill level you were outnumbered. But there is absolutely no question these clowns were scrubs