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Posted by: Shimdroid.2765

Shimdroid.2765

Hello guys, i haven’t been playing for some time and was thinking of returning.
I was playing a game where i could deal a mix of condi and direct damage,and i’d like to play in a similar way bere. Since mesmer was my main before leaving, and i was playing wvw exclusively, i’ll try and start from this profession.
So my question is: is there any possibility for a hybrid mesmer to work in roaming? Doesn’t have to be celestial, i read somewhere it’s not so great, but maybe a mix of some of other new armor choices implemented recently.
Thanks for your time!

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Posted by: Ansau.7326

Ansau.7326

I tried an hybrid build and it isn’t a good build.
The burst damage from both direct and condis is quite meh. This wouldn’t be a problem if we had decent sustained damage, but mesmer is one of the profession with the worst sustained damage in this game.

With an hybrid build, your sustained damage is mediocre, your burst damage is mediocre, and your passive survivability is mediocre because you have to spread the available stats between power, precision, critical damage, condi damage, toughness and vitality.

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Posted by: bearshaman.3421

bearshaman.3421

I’ve seen a bleed build using phantasmal duelist and the bleed traits that seemed to work pretty well.

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Posted by: Pride.1734

Pride.1734

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Chronomancer_-_Chronophantasma_Shatter

its only the best build in PvP atm, ofc there is no way this would ever work in wvw for roaming

no seriously slap come cele gear( or other hybrid of your choice) and perplexity runes on that and you’re golden.
Also you might want to swap the portal out.

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Posted by: Magical Things.8465

Magical Things.8465

I tried an hybrid build and it isn’t a good build.
The burst damage from both direct and condis is quite meh. This wouldn’t be a problem if we had decent sustained damage, but mesmer is one of the profession with the worst sustained damage in this game.

With an hybrid build, your sustained damage is mediocre, your burst damage is mediocre, and your passive survivability is mediocre because you have to spread the available stats between power, precision, critical damage, condi damage, toughness and vitality.

I think you were doing something wrong. I run vipers armor w/ berserker runes and sinister trinkets. There hasn’t been a 1v1 I’ve lost since to any class. I’ve also had success 1v3 as long as I’m playing close attention. Scepter & shield is your bread and butter with gs for kiting. I’m used to power shatter so running glassy is nothing new to me. Scepter hits hard now with both condi and power…set up your shatter…..confusion, torment & burst. Usually light armors can’t last 3 secs after 1 full shatter burst. The exception being a full celestial ele. You can down them too just have to use cover condi’s till they blow cool downs. A good placed scepter # 3 followed by 3 illusion shatter and their done.

I do not recommend staff at all. Even with chaos armor your still going to drop as a light armor wearer from 1 good crit from a warrior or guardian.

If your experienced with a shatter build, then you know it’s go all glass or your damage is trash. Same with hybrid.

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Posted by: Magical Things.8465

Magical Things.8465

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Chronomancer_-_Chronophantasma_Shatter

its only the best build in PvP atm, ofc there is no way this would ever work in wvw for roaming

no seriously slap come cele gear( or other hybrid of your choice) and perplexity runes on that and you’re golden.
Also you might want to swap the portal out.

Um this would be utter trash in WvW. It’s a glorified revamp of the old phantasm build from way back in the day. It’s only viability is in sPvP with a comp team.

Never run the well heal in WvW, your phantasms will die pretty quickly except in 1v1 if your not facing a LB druid, celestial is the biggest kitten carry me armor ever that is horrible on a mesmer, the shatters would tickle, without condi duration condi would drop as fast as you applied them. It’s just all around bad.

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Posted by: Pride.1734

Pride.1734

Yea i also dont run the heal well, but the build just rocks. No matter how big the differences between wvw and pvp, a build that is literaly the top of the whole foodchain and wins every 1v1 will still be good in wvw. I mean you can keep telling yopurself that it doesnt work while i’ll be winning 1v3’s with it.

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Posted by: Ansau.7326

Ansau.7326

I think you were doing something wrong. I run vipers armor w/ berserker runes and sinister trinkets. There hasn’t been a 1v1 I’ve lost since to any class. I’ve also had success 1v3 as long as I’m playing close attention. Scepter & shield is your bread and butter with gs for kiting. I’m used to power shatter so running glassy is nothing new to me. Scepter hits hard now with both condi and power…set up your shatter…..confusion, torment & burst. Usually light armors can’t last 3 secs after 1 full shatter burst. The exception being a full celestial ele. You can down them too just have to use cover condi’s till they blow cool downs. A good placed scepter # 3 followed by 3 illusion shatter and their done.

I do not recommend staff at all. Even with chaos armor your still going to drop as a light armor wearer from 1 good crit from a warrior or guardian.

If your experienced with a shatter build, then you know it’s go all glass or your damage is trash. Same with hybrid.

I tried Sc/Sh – S/T dueling-illusions/chrono, although I run a mix of rabid, zerker and rampager. Couldn’t manage to keep up with the condi pressure of an engi. Couldn’t manage to do anything to a d/d ele. Couldn’t put enough pressure to a stabackstab thief.

Probably it was me not going full offensive with stats. Neither I could as I still have to unlock Sinister and Viper (uuhhh pve…).

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Posted by: Shimdroid.2765

Shimdroid.2765

Thanks for the inputs guys,i’ll try to unlock some viper or sinister and start experimenting. Much appreciated!

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Posted by: pico.6402

pico.6402

Just one question here, if U try to build hybrid mes why U’re taking precision and feriocity? U will split stats and don’t get enought valuse in power and condi to put enough pressure.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

I’ve seen a bleed build using phantasmal duelist and the bleed traits that seemed to work pretty well.

This is the type my daughter runs for PvE and WvW.
Staff + sword/sword build. Lots of bleeding stacks from clones and illusions.
In WvW it needs a bit stealth because it doesn´t kill too fast and it needs power/precision/condi stats which means lower defence. So its dangerous in WvW. In PvE she kills mobs just by walking by …

We are not fully finisehed with crafting but it looks like this.
You basically don´t use your signets, move constantly and maintain 3 illusions that do shatter on situation but not to fast. You use it for cleansing + healing not burst damage. The build does sustained damage. And its a base build. It was made for PvE but i find it nice to play in WvW too.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8cnsICFohdoBOqBMrhFcDqMAJ4Xo5uJ74cGvo2A-TVSFABuv/QfKB7X9H2OCAJ/AAaX3wSKDA4iAUlSvAAIA7cnpz6M4oH9oH9oHtde0de0duzCBcaBA-w

(edited by Wolfric.9380)