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Posted by: MountainPanda.5831

MountainPanda.5831

Hi guys
I am currently running a variance of blackwater build on my mesmer focusing on condition using scepter/torch and sword/pistol. I am currently using pistol cd reduction but I somehow feel something is amiss without DE, just wanna seek your views on whether this is critical?

also, would it be better if i swap the 20 pts fron domination to illusion line giving up torch cd for confusion duration and phantasm recharge reduction?

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

PvE, PvP or WvW? :o

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Posted by: MountainPanda.5831

MountainPanda.5831

For soloing in wvw

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

So, the blackwater and related builds rely pretty heavily on clone-death traits. Without DE, those traits become close to useless.

You could swap the points out of domination, but you’d lose your only source of condition removal.

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

Yes, you need clones for this build. Lots and lots of clones.

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Posted by: Nilgoow.1037

Nilgoow.1037

You should probably enjoy DE before it gets “reworked” on the 15th.

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

You should probably enjoy DE before it gets “reworked” on the 15th.

Source? Or hunch?

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Posted by: Marsares.2053

Marsares.2053

I stopped running with DE in solo WvW roaming… just don’t find I really need it anymore.

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Posted by: Alissah.9281

Alissah.9281

You should probably enjoy DE before it gets “reworked” on the 15th.

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Posted by: Valarauka.2719

Valarauka.2719

I really doubt they’re touching DE – didn’t see anything about it in any of the preview notes, so unless Nilgoow has some secret source, it’s just speculative whining. :p

I do hope they fix Perplexity runes though…

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Posted by: Confessor.8957

Confessor.8957

You should probably enjoy DE before it gets “reworked” on the 15th.

Source? Or hunch?

There was a thread about 5 months ago speculating about a 10 second cooldown added to DE. I seriously doubt they would ever do that.

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Posted by: Simonoly.4352

Simonoly.4352

I currently run a 0/20/30/0/20 build. Don’t really miss the condi-cleanse of torch, and am loving the increase in dps. I recommend giving it a go.

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Posted by: Hexxen.7216

Hexxen.7216

20/0/30/20/0 here and I don’t miss DE at all.

On a further note: HALLOWEEN WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

Obtena.7952

Leveling solo for PVE … DE made a very large difference. Before I got it, I considered dumping my Mesmer. Now, it’s fun.

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Posted by: themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

Does anyone have any clue how the Direct Power damage and Condition damage is gonna be changed in next patch? Like if Power gets stronger while condi gets weaker, or if Condi gets stronger and power gets weaker, or if both get stronger or both get weaker.

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Posted by: blutstein.2468

blutstein.2468

Does anyone have any clue how the Direct Power damage and Condition damage is gonna be changed in next patch? Like if Power gets stronger while condi gets weaker, or if Condi gets stronger and power gets weaker, or if both get stronger or both get weaker.

all we know is that they want to look at condition scaling. thats it.

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Posted by: themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

oh, I also read somewhere that this friday, Anet are gonna go deeper into their patch notes in their official Twitch TV. This friday. I live in California. Anyone know what time it will be for the West Coast? and could someone also provide the link to the Twitch site that Anet uses?

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Posted by: blutstein.2468

blutstein.2468

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Posted by: Axyl.9408

Axyl.9408

My prediction is that they’ll move it to the grandmaster tier.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

That’s not really sensible, unlike the -20% CD trait.

The problem with Deceptive Evasion is how gameplay-changing it is compared to the baseline. Important: only in comparison.

What DE needs is our baseline clone generation to be stronger, and this increase to not stack with DE.

Say, by default when dodging, we briefly create a 3s lasting clone which dodges in the opposite direction and then immediately does 1 autoattack. If ordered to shatter during that time it counts for the shatter.

DE then causes that clone to stick around afterwards.

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Posted by: skcamow.3527

skcamow.3527

Just FYI, here is the source for the 10/11 Anet developer balance discussion. They will be talking about the changes coming for the 10/15 patch.
http://www.twitch.tv/m/273034

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