Guild Wars 2

I just wanted to start off with saying that I LOVE my class and my preferred play style is Staff swapping with Scepter and Focus.

I’ve noticed that my Phantasmal Warden’s techno club glowstick dance of DPS is melee ranged, but she won’t move to melee range of the mob if the mob moves. I can summon her on a mob and when she begins twirling, I’ve seen the mob just take two steps back out of her range after one or two hits from the Warden. Then, instead of moving closer to the mob after her dance, my Warden just stands there for another seven or so seconds and then begins another twirl.

I guess I wasn’t too concerned with this issue before this week’s patch, as previously she would begin another dance a second or two after the first and I had a decent chance of being able to drag the mob back over to my Warden and pick up on the DPS I had just missed out on by the mob simply taking a few steps back. At this point, seven seconds is a long time to keep a mob by my Warden waiting for her to begin dancing again.

Is the Phantasmal Warden supposed to act like a stationary turret with a long cooldown with a short attack range or is she supposed to be following the mobs around? If it is working as intended, I will be very disappointed as I feel like I am far less effective with my preferred weapon sets/playstyle and I believe this could be helped if my Warden would just follow her target around.

Thanks for your help!

Yep that’s how it works, it’s a limitation, but warden is still very powerful. Instead of seeing the limitation as an unassailable weakness…try to think of a way around it.

Warden is a focus skill…focus has another skill that pulls the mob in any direction you desire. Pull them into the warden.

What I do is normally iLeap, iWarden, swap with clone that iLeaped, blurred frenzy. Mob is rooted, gets nailed by warden, and I am invincible due to blurred frenzy.

I’ve tried the the Temporal Curtain/Into the Void tactic and found it very unreliable. Sometimes the curtain just zigzags the mobs everywhere from one end of the length of the curtain to the other, not really pulling in any set direction and often the mobs completely bypass my Warden.

As far as Illusionary Leap goes, that is in the Sword line and I really want to stay ranged, which is why I use Scepter.

Into the Void is very consistent on where it moves targets.

It moves them a fixed distance towards the center of the curtain. That’s it. That’s all it does. It works 100% consistently 100% of the time.

The issue is that most players are watching the curtain, and they think the Into the Void moves things relative to the “line”. This is wrong. Pretend that Into the Void moves across a single point in the middle of the “curtain”. Pretend it is a black hole. Not a line.

Well in my experience, warden doesn’t work ultrawell when you’re ranged against melee mobs, because they will either smash the warden or move to you to attack. It works very well with 1H sword though.

I guess for ranged, you could try to mirror image the mob so that they are likely to go after the clones instead of running to you. As for temporal curtain, it can be fairly reliable, but you need to know how far it pulls and use your pull accordingly. It is still not 100% accurate, but I get pretty good results with it. I would say like 75% of the time I can pull the mob into my warden’s attack. —Edit, EasymodeX is right, try to picture the mob going towards the center of the curtain…you will get better with time.

One thing though, if your playstyle focuses around having the mob chase you while you kite them with staff 2 and things like that…then you may have to adjust your playstyle to use warden effectively, because you really need a way to lock the mob down while it hits him. Or you could just use pistol instead, which works wonders with a staff kiting kind of playstyle.

It appears that I was using Into the Void wrong? Would that explain why if there were four mobs spread out and I drop the curtain in the middle of them, they basically all fly in an ‘X’ and land just as scattered as they were, but in different spots?

Also, I had considered trying out Pistol again, and will give it a shot. I’ll hate losing Temporal Curtain!

edyn.6413:

It appears that I was using Into the Void wrong? Would that explain why if there were four mobs spread out and I drop the curtain in the middle of them, they basically all fly in an ‘X’ and land just as scattered as they were, but in different spots?

Also, I had considered trying out Pistol again, and will give it a shot. I’ll hate losing Temporal Curtain!

Yep you got it! Like EasyModeX said, it pulls them toward the middle of the curtain. So if you want to pull them to the warden, learn to judge how far it pulls, put the middle of it right on the warden, and pull!

And yeah, I feel you on temporal curatin, it sucks to not have swiftness, and it’s such a good control ability. But iDuelist is amazing for single target, and Magic Bullet is freaking awesome as well…stun the first MOB, daze the others.