Guild Wars 2

Clones absorb the damage that a player using a Mesmer would normally take. If enemy players are targeting the clones rather than the Mesmer, then the Mesmer will take 0 damage. Lets combine that with some other factors about the Mesmer class.

Clones and the Mesmer are no longer distinguishable from one another. Anet worked real hard to make sure those clones would be mistaken for the real deal and they now are constantly.

Every couple of seconds here is another clone with 2K+ hp that has the potential to take an unreasonable amount of HP from your/my character’s hp pool with a swinging sword attack, or by just exploding once they are close to you/me.

He can veil (stealth) himself and all team members for several seconds.

When you do find the Mesmer he can just stealth, and shatter all of his clones at the same time. Your full hp pool (even if its at: 19,000, with 3,354 Armor, and a -10% to damage signet) will be gone in 1 second. And if you want to use a single skill to save yourself, guess what you have 5+ stacks of confusion. Any skill you use will deal an unreasonable amount of damage to yourself. This is damage that the Mesmer does not have to produce himself, his opponent literary will produce the damage for the Mesmer to himself.

He can mass haste himself and all of his clones, and all party members. As if the clone damage wasn’t enough. With this spell he doubles the speed at which he can produce clones doubling his damage. Not only that but the clones get haste also essentially doubling their damage as well.

He can portal himself and party members through walls. I understand that every class was designed or perhaps forced to have their own unique flare, but this one combined with all the other abilities I mentioned just seems to much.

When you combine of all these abilities you basically have a class that can not be damaged, because the clones will take all the damage not the Mesmer. You have a class that can vanish into thin air if actually distinguished from it’s clones. You have skills like the swinging sword phantom thing, and shatter that do an unreasonable amount of damage. He wields confusion, a skill that actually helps your opponent kill himself. He can veil a whole team then portal them through a wall if they only manage to stealth their way behind enemy lines. If all that wasn’t enough a Mesmer can double it’s damage, and the damage of his clones, and teammates for like 10 seconds.

And clones have changed how exactly in the last patch?

Or are you saying that for some reason its been overlooked since beta 1 by the entire community that consist of 90% guardians/warriors/rangers/eles/theives/necros (I will grant you that the engineer is as rare or rarer than mesmer)?

Oh the horror of the ever present OP Mesmers! Yesterday I saw like one mesmer that owned the crap out of me! Wait a second… That was me

Another troll thread with lots of incorrect information?

Please know that—as a Mesmer—I die more than anyone I know. If I were in game, I would post my death count to prove it. Anyone else have their death count handy?

Nikked.7365:

Another troll thread with lots of incorrect information?

Please know that—as a Mesmer—I die more than anyone I know. If I were in game, I would post my death count to prove it. Anyone else have their death count handy?

I checked mine last week. I have just over 1300 hours on the mesmer and over 1700 deaths. Heck, I actually got beaten by a warrior last week 1v1 who caught me with a 10k eviscerate catching me totally off guard. I’m still chapped about it.

To Godmoney

You’re obviously just trying to get this post locked by first calling someone names, then by insulting their work. I’m editing the post now, its actually much easier to make a post then edit it later so you can view the whole thing on a page rather than only being able to view 6 sentences.

You’re calling me names like arrogant and its uncalled for.

I guess this post wasn’t received any other way than negative. Big surprise since this is an internet posting forum. Its just horrible sometimes trying to interact with you people. So I will say good bye.

Ron.4920:

To Godmoney

You’re obviously just trying to get this post locked by first calling someone names, then by insulting their work. I’m editing the post now, its actually much easier to make a post then edit it later so you can view the whole thing on a page, rather than only being able to view 6 sentences.

You’re calling me names like arrogant and its uncalled for.

I guess this post wasn’t received any other way than negative. Big surprise since this is an internet posting forum. Its just horrible sometimes trying to interact with you people. So I will say good bye.

So you’re telling me it’s not arrogant to claim that pro players, designers, etc know nothing about what they’re doing?

So it wouldn’t be arrogant of me to tell a 25 year long mechanic that he sucks when i have basically 0 mechanical knowledge?

Hmm, sounds pretty arrogant to me.

Godmoney.2048:

I checked mine last week. I have just over 1300 hours on the mesmer and over 1700 deaths. Heck, I actually got beaten by a warrior last week 1v1 who caught me with a 10k eviscerate catching me totally off guard. I’m still chapped about it.

A Warrior! Heavens. I didn’t think Warriors actually existed.

I was knocked down by a Ranger last night. An ally came to my rescue, but he started reviving the downed clone while I was getting spiked. Go figure.

At any rate, I remember celebrating my 1000th death a few weeks ago, so I can’t be too far behind you, Godmoney!

Zelulose.8695:

Godmoney.2048:

Nikked.7365:

Another troll thread with lots of incorrect information?

Please know that—as a Mesmer—I die more than anyone I know. If I were in game, I would post my death count to prove it. Anyone else have their death count handy?

I checked mine last week. I have just over 1300 hours on the mesmer and over 1700 deaths. Heck, I actually got beaten by a warrior last week 1v1 who caught me with a 10k eviscerate catching me totally off guard. I’m still chapped about it.

Let me see a video so I can laugh at how horribly you play. Warriors are the worst class in the game. You are not securing your class by this statement. Rather, you are telling us how bad you are at the game haha.

LOl at thinking any class can’t be played well. That just show’s your lack of mmo experience.

There’s not a single class in this game that can’t counter every other class with build.

Everything he said is true. My mesmer is a God.

The character I was talking about is a guardian with equipped ascended rings, and amulet.

See how when to many people start believing their own assumptions we end going nowhere, and learning nothing.

I started playing MMORPGs in 90s.

Just to let you all know everyone of your posts that has an insult in it, is quoted then sent to the moderators.

Godmoney.2048:

Zelulose.8695:

Godmoney.2048:

Nikked.7365:

Another troll thread with lots of incorrect information?

Please know that—as a Mesmer—I die more than anyone I know. If I were in game, I would post my death count to prove it. Anyone else have their death count handy?

I checked mine last week. I have just over 1300 hours on the mesmer and over 1700 deaths. Heck, I actually got beaten by a warrior last week 1v1 who caught me with a 10k eviscerate catching me totally off guard. I’m still chapped about it.

Let me see a video so I can laugh at how horribly you play. Warriors are the worst class in the game. You are not securing your class by this statement. Rather, you are telling us how bad you are at the game haha.

LOl at thinking any class can’t be played well. That just show’s your lack of mmo experience.

There’s not a single class in this game that can’t counter every other class with build.

Well if you want fight me on a warrior… I will kill you on every class except warrior and engi because I deleted my engi lol.

Ron.4920:

The character I was talking about is a guardian with equipped ascended rings, and amulet.

See how when to many people start believing their own assumptions we end going nowhere, and learning nothing.

I started playing MMORPGs in 90s.

Just to let you all know everyone of your posts that has an insult in it, is quoted then sent to the moderators.

Sorry, didn’t mean to hurt your feelings so badly. I’ll remember to be more sensitive for you.

Godmoney.2048:

Ron.4920:

To Godmoney

You’re obviously just trying to get this post locked by first calling someone names, then by insulting their work. I’m editing the post now, its actually much easier to make a post then edit it later so you can view the whole thing on a page, rather than only being able to view 6 sentences.

You’re calling me names like arrogant and its uncalled for.

I guess this post wasn’t received any other way than negative. Big surprise since this is an internet posting forum. Its just horrible sometimes trying to interact with you people. So I will say good bye.

So you’re telling me it’s not arrogant to claim that pro players, designers, etc know nothing about what they’re doing?

So it wouldn’t be arrogant of me to tell a 25 year long mechanic that he sucks when i have basically 0 mechanical knowledge?

Hmm, sounds pretty arrogant to me.

Dude you got all that from a title? I didn’t even mean it that way at all. Since you’re the one who interpreted it that way, and I have changed the title to now try to prevent it from being interpreted that way. The fault for this lies in the way you negatively interpret others. Stop creating analogies that try to blow the situation you’re attempting to create out of proportion, and stop jumping on someone for making a post.

Hot Boy.7138:

Everything he said is true. My mesmer is a God.

Thank you very much Hot Boy.

Ron.4920:

I guess this post wasn’t received any other way than negative. Big surprise since this is an internet posting forum. Its just horrible sometimes trying to interact with you people. So I will say good bye.

Didn’t you do that already?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Good-bye-Guild-Wars

Joke aside: With the original tittle, why would you expect your post to be taken any other way than negative?

Ron.4920:

Clones absorb the damage that a player using a Mesmer would normally take. If enemy players are targeting the clones rather than the Mesmer, then the Mesmer will take 0 damage .

Well yes, thats the entire point of clones. They are working as intended.

Ron.4920:

Clones and the Mesmer are no longer distinguishable from one another. Anet worked real hard to make sure those clones would be mistaken for the real deal and they now are constantly.

Err no. There are many ways to find the real mesmer. Boons for one.

Ron.4920:

Every couple of seconds here is another clone with 2K+ hp that has the potential to take an unreasonable amount of HP from your/my character’s hp pool with a swinging sword attack

Uhm no. They don’t really deal any damage at all. Unless we shatter them.

Ron.4920:

Godmoney.2048:

Ron.4920:

To Godmoney

You’re obviously just trying to get this post locked by first calling someone names, then by insulting their work. I’m editing the post now, its actually much easier to make a post then edit it later so you can view the whole thing on a page, rather than only being able to view 6 sentences.

You’re calling me names like arrogant and its uncalled for.

I guess this post wasn’t received any other way than negative. Big surprise since this is an internet posting forum. Its just horrible sometimes trying to interact with you people. So I will say good bye.

So you’re telling me it’s not arrogant to claim that pro players, designers, etc know nothing about what they’re doing?

So it wouldn’t be arrogant of me to tell a 25 year long mechanic that he sucks when i have basically 0 mechanical knowledge?

Hmm, sounds pretty arrogant to me.

Dude you got all that from a title? I didn’t even mean it that way at all. Since you’re the one who interpreted it that way, and I have changed the title to now try to prevent it from being interpreted that way. The fault for this lies in the way you negatively interpret others. Stop creating analogies that try to blow the situation you’re attempting to create out of proportion, and stop jumping on someone for making a post.

I just hope you’re going to be ok. I feel bad that I put you through all of this. Tonight I’ll pray for healing to happen. God bless you and all your future internet usage.

You folks thought all that, because I typed in a quick title so I could start working on the body of my post?

Reesha are you aware that in one of the recent patches clones and phantasms now display any boon the Mesmer has? So you can not distinguish the Mesmer from the clones by simply examining your target’s boons any longer.

Godmoney please talk to someone else.

Ron.4920:

You folks thought all that, because I typed in a quick title so I could start working on the body of my post?

Reesha are you aware that in one of the recent patches clones and phantasms now display any boon the Mesmer has? So you can not distinguish the Mesmer from the clones by simply examining your target’s boons any longer.

Godmoney please talk to someone else.

“Then in WvW you have the thief. I hate WvW now. The thief can hit for 8k with steal, and then for 13k with back stab. That is two instant moves, that the thief is stealth for, two moves that take about 1 second to execute. Just two attacks and your health bar is gone. It looks like your heath bar just vanishes instantly in one second, you where not even being attacked. Then you see another one of those ugly midgets the asura behind you. Well that is it for me, Stitch is not instant killing me anymore. What is so lame about it is, I have a few traits set up to prevent this from happening. Such as an elixir that is supposed to trigger at 25% hp and make me invulnerable for 3 seconds, or a trait that gives my character 5 seconds of retaliation after receiving a critical shot, or 3 seconds of protection after being disabled, stuned etc. To bad that with just two attacks it doesn’t even give the game time to register you are in combat, thus your automatic defense traits never trigger.”

Here’s a quote from your “I quit” thread. I just thought it helps flesh out your arguments for you.

Great posts btw!

Just saying, if this class was supposed to be a follow-up of the GW1 Mesmer class, then it’s subpar.

A decent Gw1 Mesmer……THAT was an annoying profession to deal with.

Now Mesmer is too much Damage and not enough CC (in pvp) imo.

Ron.4920:

You folks thought all that, because I typed in a quick title so I could start working on the body of my post?

Reesha are you aware that in one of the recent patches clones and phantasms now display any boon the Mesmer has? So you can not distinguish the Mesmer from the clones by simply examining your target’s boons any longer.

Godmoney please talk to someone else.

The best advice I can give you is try dueling a mesmer
You will find there are plenty of ways to find the real one. If you can’t: I am sorry but you need to pratice a bit then.

My point about clones is this when any other class presses the number 7: they get a few boons for a few seconds, or they might get a little trap by their feet, or they might get an AOE, or they might pop into stealth for 3 seconds, or they might summon a lesser pet, or they might put up something to block projectiles.

When a Mesmer makes a clone even with the scepter: The clone can do all of the following. It can take an attack that greatly exceeds it’s hit points, if it dies it doesn’t really matter since when it dies it still hurts the opponent with damage and confusion. A clone can sit there and just dps for the Mesmer if it doesn’t die, which adds to the Mesmer’s overall damage. Clones can be given boons which will even further increase their damage output.

Can you just go away God Money? Do you have to just obsess and try to pick away at someone until you have the effect you’re looking for? Can you just go away? Can you not pull up old posts that I was given infractions for? Can you just go away, and stop?

I took about 3 months off after making that post. I only came back because I heard culling had been fixed.

Clones dont really deal damage :P To be exact my staff clone hits for 6 on a training dummy ^^
My sword clone hits between 2-17

Ron, you are somewhat misinformed…try playing mesmer for a bit in pvp, and you’ll get a better sense of the limitations and weaknesses. as a general rule, if you don’t know what is happening in pvp, you’ll probably make mistakes and lose. Take some time, take a step back and try to figure out how to tell the mesmer apart from the clones and try to figure out which ones are damaging you. For example, you imply that clones -the exact copies- do a lot of damage. In fact the only damage they really do is either causing conditions or shattering….and you can dodge the shatter. the damage can come from phantasms, which are not identical, they look like ghosts, and you can stop them by dodging them, killing them as soon as they’re cast with 1-2 hits, or preventing the mesmer from finishing long cast time stuff.

To Bob Ross and Reesha

Thank you for your advice, I will make a Mesmer and learn it.

well maybe is hard for you see which is the real mesmer, but if you cant distinguish a Mesmer and a phantom… well that is serious O_o
clones do like 1 damage, Phantoms are who deal good damage

Ron.4920:

When you do find the Mesmer he can just stealth, and shatter all of his clones at the same time. Your full hp pool (even if its at: 19,000, with 3,354 Armor, and a -10% to damage signet) will be gone in 1 second. And if you want to use a single skill to save yourself, guess what you have 5+ stacks of confusion. Any skill you use will deal an unreasonable amount of damage to yourself. This is damage that the Mesmer does not have to produce himself, his opponent literary will produce the damage for the Mesmer to himself.

I run a shatter Mesmer and I’ve never seen damage like this. The most I usually see is up to 2.5k per illusion and that’s if I’m full glass cannon. I don’t think you should be being hit that hard.

A lot of people compare gw1 mesmer to gw2 mesmer and says that anet went in the wrong direction. I never played guild wars 1. I had no interest in it. I love my mesmer the way she is now. Then again, I really don’t know anything about gw1 mesmer but I’m very happy with this direction that mesmer is in.

The OP makes valid points. But every class has it’s strengths and every class has its weaknesses. I’ve met players of all classes, even warriors believe it or not, who are so exceptionally good they make the class they’re playing seem overpowered in every way. That doesn’t mean the class is unbeatable…. people are beating thieves; people are beating mesmers, guardians do lose duels, too. Just because you’re not beating them, doesn’t mean they’re impossible to beat. Practice makes perfect, my brother. Mesmers have a lot of tools at their disposal, but the class isn’t unbeatable.

And if you’re losing to every single mesmer, whether they’ve been playing for 1500 hours or 1 hour, I think the problem rests with you. Cause I see a lot of bad bad bad mesmers, and thieves, and guardians…. and rangers since they’re the new topic this month for people asking for nerfs. I agree that’s easier for an inexperienced player to have success in pvp with a class that is able to stealth, or do a lot of healing to themselves, but even with those mechanics, it won’t mean much against any decent player if they’re simply not good at playing the class.

Its only happen a few times. The time I was referring to the guy had about 4 clones/phantasms going. I was pinned between the environment and the enemy siege fire line. The Mesmer was a few feet away so I switched to melee weapons, and took a step towards him. He disappears the clones all explode, my hp goes from full to about dead I use my heal to try and recover the confusion kills me.

Ron.4920:

Clones and the Mesmer are no longer distinguishable from one another. Anet worked real hard to make sure those clones would be mistaken for the real deal and they now are constantly.

You can tell the difference.

Ron.4920:

Every couple of seconds here is another clone with 2K+ hp that has the potential to take an unreasonable amount of HP from your/my character’s hp pool with a swinging sword attack, or by just exploding once they are close to you/me.

Clones really do no damage other than Shatter or Bleeds (if traited).

Ron.4920:

He can veil (stealth) himself and all team members for several seconds.

So what. Every class has unique abilities that others wish they had.

Ron.4920:

When you do find the Mesmer he can just stealth, and shatter all of his clones at the same time. Your full hp pool (even if its at: 19,000, with 3,354 Armor, and a -10% to damage signet) will be gone in 1 second. And if you want to use a single skill to save yourself, guess what you have 5+ stacks of confusion. Any skill you use will deal an unreasonable amount of damage to yourself. This is damage that the Mesmer does not have to produce himself, his opponent literary will produce the damage for the Mesmer to himself.

A Mesmer isn’t going to do 19k damage just with a Shatter. Confusion was nerfed and now it tickles. If you die to confusion now, you’re bad.

Ron.4920:

He can mass haste himself and all of his clones, and all party members. As if the clone damage wasn’t enough. With this spell he doubles the speed at which he can produce clones doubling his damage. Not only that but the clones get haste also essentially doubling their damage as well.

Really…? Time Warp was already nerfed and it gets less and less use all the time.

Ron.4920:

He can portal himself and party members through walls. I understand that every class was designed or perhaps forced to have their own unique flare, but this one combined with all the other abilities I mentioned just seems to much.

Mesmer’s cannot portal through walls.

To Xavi

Mesmers sure can portal: through walls, up mountains, underwater you name it. All they need to do is get behind enemies lines to move the whole team past two zergs facing off against one another, at a hole in some base.

Ron.4920:

Its only happen a few times. The time I was referring to the guy had about 4 clones/phantasms going. I was pinned between the environment and the enemy siege fire line. The Mesmer was a few feet away so I switched to melee weapons, and took a step towards him. He disappears the clones all explode, my hp goes from full to about dead I use my heal to try and recover the confusion kills me.

So he shattered his illusions and you took a lot of damage. Working as intended just like any other class. I’ve had warriors down me in less than 3 seconds with their hard hitting abilities. You also should have noticed confusion on you and removed it before healing or waiting it out.

Ron.4920:

To Xavi

Mesmers sure can portal: through walls, up mountains, underwater you name it. All they need to do is get behind enemies lines to move the whole team past two zergs facing off against one another, at a hole in some base.

My key point is we have to get on the other side to do the portal. If we cannot get on the other side of the wall, we cannot port there.

I would suggest you roll a Mesmer and learn how they play. This is good advice for any class that you have trouble with. You can also ask on your own professions forums on how to beat a class.

Are you underleveled? Are you a glass cannon?

Ron.4920:

Its only happen a few times. The time I was referring to the guy had about 4 clones/phantasms going. I was pinned between the environment and the enemy siege fire line. The Mesmer was a few feet away so I switched to melee weapons, and took a step towards him. He disappears the clones all explode, my hp goes from full to about dead I use my heal to try and recover the confusion kills me.

Ok. If this happened relatively recently (there was 1 month in December to January time frame when Mesmers had a ridiculously OP buff that has been removed). I think it must have been that the stars aligned and the mesmer unloaded everything he had.

If the mesmer disappeared and you suddenly died, you probably got hit by 2 back to back shatters. The first shatter did a little damage and stacked confusion, gave the mesmer 3 stacks of might, and applied 12 stacks of vulnerability . The mesmer then probably quickly generated 2-3 clones. Because they disappeared they must have used decoy (maybe after mirror images). And then did a mind wrack, which could apply a great deal of damage.

That probably seemed fairly OP, but it’s about like taking a full 100 blades to the face. It won’t happen very often. For example, decoy is on a 40 second cooldown and mirror images on a 45 second cooldown.

Xavi.6591:

Ron.4920:

Its only happen a few times. The time I was referring to the guy had about 4 clones/phantasms going. I was pinned between the environment and the enemy siege fire line. The Mesmer was a few feet away so I switched to melee weapons, and took a step towards him. He disappears the clones all explode, my hp goes from full to about dead I use my heal to try and recover the confusion kills me.

So he shattered his illusions and you took a lot of damage. Working as intended just like any other class. I’ve had warriors down me in less than 3 seconds with their hard hitting abilities. You also should have noticed confusion on you and removed it before healing or waiting it out.

Xavi your two posts have been reported. You honestly sound like the guy who tells everyone what a UFC fighter should be doing during his match. You sound like the guy who says yeah if this guy would have just done this he would have won.

Xavi I have already given the stats of my main WvW character above.

To Toobiz

That was wonderful thank you for that man, you explained a lot. I understood perfectly when you compared it to 100 blades.

A few notes:

Identifying the mesmer is not based on boon icons or OH hands. Clones only stand there and auto-attack. The real Mesmer will strafe, dodge, use other skills, etc. Always put a target on the real Mesmer once you identify him to keep track.

Mass Invisibility only stealths 10 people. Timewarp only increases attack speed by 50% and only affects 5 people. These are both elites, so we have to pick one. Personally, I go with the Norn Snow Leopard in WvW.

For the portal, the range is commonly referred to as “radar range” (approx. 5000 units). A mesmer can only portal friends into a tower/keep if he dropped the entrance there and then ran out. This requires hiding in a tower/keep after it has been capped by the enemy, which is very difficult.

Clones can only inflict conditions when they are killed if the Mesmer is specced for it. My experience is that most builds do not use these traits.

Maximum number of clones we can support is 3. If a mesmer uses the shatter, s/he can produce more clones while the original clones are charging the target. The theoretical max is 6 clones due to this, but it’s impossible to have 6 out for more than a few seconds.

Finally, Mesmers are illusionary duelists. We have a steep learning curve to be effective, which means fighting a Mesmer also has a steep learning curve. If you can’t believe your eyes, then I’ve done my job right.

@Ron: I’m not quite convinced yet that you’re quite as blindly idiotic as others that make posts here, so I’ll do my best to be civil in this response.

To make a long story short, almost everything you have said is factually wrong.

First, there was no change to clone mechanics. They do not display the boons of a Mesmer, or any things like that. Finding the real Mesmer is, and always has been, a trivial task. Clones don’t have offhands, they don’t display boons or signets or food buffs, they attack slower than the real Mesmer, and their ai pathing is rapidly recognized by someone paying attention.

With rare exceptions (staff/trident clones in a condition damage build) clones do not do damage. That sword clone won’t do more than maybe 5-10 damage on a zerker geared level 80.

Shatters have cool downs. Simply having clones or phantasms around does not mean you can shatter them.

Veil is on a 90 second cool down, and lasts 4 seconds. Decoy is on a 45 second cool down and lasts 3 seconds. Mass invisibility is on a 90 second cool down and lasts 5 seconds. Only 2 of those are aoe.

With 3300 armor, mind wrack won’t do more than 7k at the absolute maximum for a full zerker, illusionary persona, 4 clone wrack.

Unless the Mesmer is using scepter, quickness will not affect the clone generation rate, as a such skills have cool downs…and cool downs do not change. Additionally clones don’t do damage, so hasting them changes nothing. Phantasms do damage, but their skills have cool downs as well, so their overall dps will not change either.

So in conclusion, pretty much everything you thought you knew about Mesmer mechanics is extremely incorrect. Your complaining is amusing to us because you base it on absolutely false arguments. If you want to learn how mesmers play, then play a Mesmer, or make a post in these forums asking how particular mechanics work. However, if you make a massive whine thread like this base on completely false arguments, you’ll get exactly what you see: people trolling you because of the absurdity of your post.

Ron.4920:

Xavi.6591:

Ron.4920:

Its only happen a few times. The time I was referring to the guy had about 4 clones/phantasms going. I was pinned between the environment and the enemy siege fire line. The Mesmer was a few feet away so I switched to melee weapons, and took a step towards him. He disappears the clones all explode, my hp goes from full to about dead I use my heal to try and recover the confusion kills me.

So he shattered his illusions and you took a lot of damage. Working as intended just like any other class. I’ve had warriors down me in less than 3 seconds with their hard hitting abilities. You also should have noticed confusion on you and removed it before healing or waiting it out.

Xavi your two posts have been reported. You honestly sound like the guy who tells everyone what a UFC fighter should be doing during his match. You sound like the guy who says yeah if this guy would have just done this he would have won.

I would like to apologize on behalf of Xavi. I will pray for forgiveness tonight. We all must admit that great crimes against humanity have taken place today.

I totally agree with you Ron. Big ole’ mean mesmer’s need the nerf bat hard. It’s not fair, it’s just not fair.

Ron.4920:

Xavi.6591:

Ron.4920:

Its only happen a few times. The time I was referring to the guy had about 4 clones/phantasms going. I was pinned between the environment and the enemy siege fire line. The Mesmer was a few feet away so I switched to melee weapons, and took a step towards him. He disappears the clones all explode, my hp goes from full to about dead I use my heal to try and recover the confusion kills me.

So he shattered his illusions and you took a lot of damage. Working as intended just like any other class. I’ve had warriors down me in less than 3 seconds with their hard hitting abilities. You also should have noticed confusion on you and removed it before healing or waiting it out.

Xavi your two posts have been reported. You honestly sound like the guy who tells everyone what a UFC fighter should be doing during his match. You sound like the guy who says yeah if this guy would have just done this he would have won.

Xavi I have already given the stats of my main WvW character above.

So just because you don’t like the answers you are hearing on the Mesmer forums, you start reporting? Get real. Your posts are so full in misinformation about the Mesmer class and some of your other experiences are so dated (December?) that the class has been nerfed multiple times since then.

Any class can beat any other class on any given day. Like I said, rather than creating a QQ thread (which you did), you could have come here asking for help on how to beat a Mesmer. You could also post in your own class forums on how to beat a Mesmer. Even better, roll one to find out how they work and the strengths and weaknesses.

Thanks for the report.

When people start mixing in insults with their posts that is when they should be reported.

Xavi, and God money do you not have anything in the world better to do than this?

You know you guys win, I’m tired of playing your game. I’m tired of being outnumbered on these forums for oh my god posting an idea. He should be burned at the stack for his stupidity. Please just stay here for the rest of your lives, so the world doesn’t have to deal with you.

Hi everyone,

This thread has derailed and won’t provide any constructive discussion besides insults.
The thread is closed.
Please refrain from this behaviour in the future.