Worst Thief in the world, yes I am.
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It is time
Sorry, I’m confused. The first build seems like a hybrid between a pvp build and a pve build. Is it suppose to be a burst build for pve? If so, then you don’t need blink or mass invisibility. Take time warp! You have harmonious mantras and you are only using two mantras. Take advantage of it! I would also rather have compounding power in pve than persistence of memories. I tried using that trait for pve roaming and was not very impressed by it. If this is pve, instead of blink you really need mantra of distraction. This is not only for the damage boost from harmonious mantras but because it synergizes with Dazzling in the domination line to provide stacks of vulnerability to the npc before you shatter.
If you are running a pvp build with illusions, I would still take the pledge if you use torch. Not necessarily because of the cool down reduction but because of the condition cleanse. I found this very useful as there is still a lot of condition builds in use. If this is for pvp you also really want deceptive evasion to get clone generation for your burst.
p.s. I would also use empowered illusions in both cases (or you can take confounding suggestions for pvp). One stack of vulnerability per shatter just doesn’t seem like very much, especially compared to the vulnerability stacking of mantra of distraction.
Lägertha Lothbrök: PvE Mesmer
Schrödingers Clone: PvP Mesmer
Schrödingers Clone: PvP Mesmer
I was trying to figure out what everyone has so far, what the builds are we -AS MESMERS- have managed to think up. Instead of diving around the internet and random chats, just one spot. This is for pvp. I don’t think we changed too much pve, but I don’t pve that much.
To each of the builds I provided: The first one I took was focused on strength and vulnerability. We can get a potential 37.5% damage increase (pretty permanent and stable, mind you) so anything with vulnerability was good. On top of that, shatter illusions granted might- and runes of strength is straight forward. The mantras can be swapped for DE (which imo needs to be baseline, but that might just be too powerful) but it was focused on you being in combat and cleansing before diving in (potential 8% damage increase for using each mantra really quick). So if done correctly, you have your (Berserker Amulet +5% from strength runes + might stacks +37.5% from vulnerability + 8 to 16% from mantras) and thats pretty massive especially if used in a singular shatter ball.
The other build was more of a safer shatter burst. Roughly the same concept, just more streamlined and with more boons/sustain.
Confounding suggestions is ok, but it’s not effective when you need it. Stunbreakers left and right, stability resembling candy. It’s strong, absolutely, but whenever I need it (and I had the trait) it never happened. Empowered illusions sounds strong, but its just per illusion and MOST of our illusions in pvp only drop one rotation before getting cleaved by some random aoe ability. That and from the math provided- 37.5%>15%. And again, that’s easy to get. Daze (shatter 3, pistol, possible mantra if you want to swap decoy or blink) gives 5 off the bat (and thats 7.5% damage increase) per shatter including yourself- and that rounds into 20 stacks or a 30% damage increase. Followed by a quick bit of combat, you just smacked all 25 stacks very consistently. It’s probably just my playstyle- and I always trait in deceptive evasion, I just noticed that one game I tried the damaging mantras and my shatter damage increased considerably.
Sorry for rambling, kinda tired.
Worst Thief in the world, yes I am.
This is the best condition mesmer build for pvp in my opinion.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VSZ-3l;0VPV1147wUF71;9;4VTW;0046038256;4Wwl6T;1l6Uwl6Uw1m
Basically it uses scepter/torch and staff with carrion amulet and uses dueling/illusions/inspiration.
You can run signet of isnpiration and the trait for it instead of mirror images and mental defense for more support, but without chaos, you don’t get tons of boon uptime, as this build is focused on bombing your targets with condition bursts from shatters.
Its probably the most cancerous mesmer build I’ve played so far. Carrion is chosen so it can contribute more direct damage to teamfights and make use of the high power scaling on scepter skills and mindwrack. Scavenging runes were chosen for max condi damage, and the sigils are flexible, but doom is reccomended on at least one set due to the lack of poison, while energy is just awesome for dodge clone generating.
Necromancer Main
Taking a break from GW2 to play various
Nintendo games..
Taking a break from GW2 to play various
Nintendo games..
The best build is the one that wins. And what wins is relative.
Confounding suggestions is ok, but it’s not effective when you need it. Stunbreakers left and right, stability resembling candy. It’s strong, absolutely, but whenever I need it (and I had the trait) it never happened.
You are literally the only person I have encountered since the patch went live that has expressed any opinion even remotely resembling something along the lines of ‘CS isn’t incredibly strong’.
In other words, you’re totally wrong. CS is arguably one of the strongest traits in the game atm, and is due for a toning down.
Pyroatheist making friends again…
He’s right though.
As for the OP all builds have inherent weaknesses, the best thing to do is pick the way you want to play and figure out your weaknesses. Then play with people or get others to cover that weakness. As for the best builds, they’re already scattered around the forum and will probably be updated into Lyssa’s Grimoire soon given how much gusto Chaos Arhangel has for mesmers.
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