Guild Wars 2

So…..

I’ve been looking into doing level 80 stuff for a while on my mesmer. I read up on some guides and I always make sure to fully read a guide on the dungeon I’m about to go into.

Yet every time I go look around to find a group to do anything I always get the same-ish answer, “Do you have a zerk warrior/ele/thief?” I say that I don’t and they usually give a response along the lines of “Well reroll you kittenlord”

Is that a common thing that it gets hard to get into any PvE with a mesmer? Since the game has come out I’ve only been doing sPvP so I’m nowhere near a beginner but I’m quite confused as to how I’m supposed to even do dungeons if I always get told to bugger off.

I wouldn’t even know how to start looking for a guild that would welcome players like myself who have a lot of experience in PvP but little to none in PvE and that wouldn’t mind actually bringing me along for stuff.

So yeah, what should I do? I don’t really wanna roll a class that doesn’t interest me in the slightest and I just generally don’t like alts :/

I have never had this issue. I’d say to look for better/smarter/nicer groups.

If they are unaware that most of the current records for dungeon paths include a Mesmer in the group, you don’t need to bother with them.

Meta groups understand the spot of a mesmer. You bring time warp and portal with some CC.

But PuG groups are not meta groups. It is likely you don’t know the portal tricks in every dungeon, or how to stealth and portal skip in fractal and dungeons, so your main benefit as mesmer to the group is lost.

Mesmer damage in PvE is pretty bad, the only thing that keeps you in a group is your utility, and if you don’t know how to use your utility in PvE groups don’t want you.

For PuGs, generally a thief or ele will be better. The thief makes the skipping more forgiving, the guardian has more reliable reflects with larger uptime not dependent on AI, the ele has far more damage than any class in game plus might and fury stacking.

Basically, if you don’t know portal tricks/curtain pulling for stacks and stealth skips+portal, you are dead weight to the group.

Seems like it’s a major pain to get started over other classes. Especially since I cannot for the life if me find anybody to do anything with. It’s cool and all to read about what to do but when it comes time to put it in practice I’d like to at least be able to try it.

Sebrent.3625:

I have never had this issue. I’d say to look for better/smarter/nicer groups.

If they are unaware that most of the current records for dungeon paths include a Mesmer in the group, you don’t need to bother with them.

I get what you’re saying but I mean I can’t really find a nicer group when almost every instances of me finding a group for anything they’ve told me that they’d rather not bring a mesmer.

I can understand that, but I recommend you find a group of people to run dungeons with and not PUG. Even if you changed classes that will make you time in-game much more enjoyable.

I’ve never had a PUG complain about my Mesmer (nor my Ranger) … no matter what “the forums say about X class”.

Nearly no random mesmer knows how to play properly, spamming feedback, some mantras, nullfields and portals where none are required and using GS in melee and stuff, so ppl tend to kick you, same goes for ranger or engi. Necro has no chance anyway in pve :P But it’s just noobprotection.

Once you have a good guild or playing with at least 2-3 ppl together who know you, you won’t get kicked by anyone. If you will, you know you really are a bad mesmer thinking you were great, but you werent :P

We often go dungeons and lvl 1 fractals with 4 ppl of which 2 are mesmers. We don’t use portals or time warps. Mass invisibility is used for skipping.

My mesmer does very low damage with sword. Noticed it one time when I took something alone. Exp players with other professions takes the same thing in two seconds but it takes forever with mesmer.

If original poster is in EU, maybe you should come with us. We don’t rush in dungeons and fractals.

Xyonon.3987:

Nearly no random mesmer knows how to play properly, spamming feedback, some mantras, nullfields and portals where none are required and using GS in melee and stuff, so ppl tend to kick you, same goes for ranger or engi. Necro has no chance anyway in pve :P But it’s just noobprotection.

Once you have a good guild or playing with at least 2-3 ppl together who know you, you won’t get kicked by anyone. If you will, you know you really are a bad mesmer thinking you were great, but you werent :P

True stuff, though I will say mesmer is the profession I get the most “holy crap I didn’t know you could do that!” type responses on. I love taking my mesmer into COE or SE and showing people how it’s done. I do miss untraited wardens furthering that amazingness, but it was pretty silly. Doing the 3 golems in SE in the open has gotten me a lot of “umm wow, why don’t people always do this?” responses. Or my favorite is in COE “kitten , I thought this was going to suck when we lost the Ele, I think I like this better!”.

To the OP, learn to play a mesmer well and you can be a great help in most dungeons.

AC is probably the one you aren’t really going to do anything, you can do some neat portal tricks, but most PUGs don’t have the understanding to utliize those.

CM, you can be a great help with reflects, though a guardian does it better.

TA, Again reflects are nice, though again not a huge help.

SE is where mesmer starts to become pretty awesome. path1 you can set up reflects for the trash on the first golem boss, move into Nokk and reflect there as well shutting down his most deadly attacks, a little stab might help too. Get through to the 3 golems, and you can use temporal curtain place a little before them, and pull them to clump them up, drop feedback on them and burn them down. Then Tazza, you can use stability to counter her knockback though not that huge.

Path2 you can reflect all the dredge as well as cleanse conditions for the first boss. You can portal to the second boss, or just run it, get there down him, get to the cart and again use reflects, also knocking the guys back under the ledge (look up a video) and you can manhandle that in melee pretty easily. Get to the next group of guys and again reflect, final boss destroy him and done.

Now on to CoF, path 1 you pull the initial fire lords to the side next to a turret, kill them for a second or two, toss a feedback up to counter the turrets and finish them off. Get to the next boss, and Time warp ftw. Move on to the acolyte room…zzzz… then set up a portal across the boulders and easymode through. Open the door to the final boss, then utilize your reflects and stab to make that guy easymode.

Path 2, Again inital wave of guys pull them together with temporal curtain, beat them down. kill, kill, kill, up to the second boss, time warp and beat his kitten . Get up to the Bomb room and you can use some portal stuff for a little faster run, but not a huge deal. Move on, get to the defense section, blah blah, get to the final boss down it.

On to COE, Here your big thing is the robot. You do the initial alpha, easymode with blurred frenzy and dodges. Move on to the Robots, pull them in the stack spot to interrupt and gather, reflect is helpful. Interrupts are nice. Boom boom bang, done. Load up Phantasmal Disenchanter and Feedback and on to the robot. Rush in cast a Warden, followed by a Phantasmal Disenchanter, Signet heal, Second warden. Auto attack to help keep boons off. Burn him down, when he charges his beam Feedback, and Temporal curtain on alternating times to guarentee a reflect (wardens can help you out but I don’t like to rely on them). Boom bang, on to second Alpha, utilize your condi cleanses and such, blah blah blah, Time warps on either second Alpha or on p3 safe it for the destroyer. Kill Kill, slaughter slaughter, done.

On to Arah. p1 use your reflects to kill the turrets, down the Ooze. Down the Aboms. Get to Tar and use some reflects and immob, done. On to Lupi Use your feedback in phase 2 to massacre him from his insane attack being reflected. Blurred frenzy is awesome, blah blah, done. On to the 3d Pong boss, reflects ftw, easymode and done. On to p2, First boss reflects are nice, projectile destruction better, kill her np move on. Use duelists placed far away for abom, on to LUpi, same thing, move on to Alphard and reflect the kitten to death. Skip skip, on to Brie… and well, you suck at brie but kill her. Yay p3. First boss reflects are nice as well as condi cleansing, kill it, move on. Second boss reflects are awesome, woopie done. Orbs, mesmers are awesome at it with blinks and portal, use them learn it, easymode. On to Lupi, same thing, yay. On to the last boss, kill it, done. p4… ok who does p4 regularly except guilds

Just my quick and dirty notes for a mesmer in dungeons Hope it helps. Outside of AC I love mesmers, CM/TA you aren’t a huge help but still nothing I’d complain about, especially if you learn portal tricks.