Looking for a PVE Shatter Build

Looking for a PVE Shatter Build

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Posted by: nakirush.7531

nakirush.7531

Hey All,

As the title suggests, I am looking for a PVE shatter build. Any suggestions on where I can find such a thing?

Thanks!

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Posted by: AlphatheWhite.9351

AlphatheWhite.9351

It won’t be a thing until HoT at the earliest.

Power Shatters do their damage on too long a cooldown. The lowest you can get Mind Wrack is 10.5s cooldown, and even assuming you get 3 illusions up every time, and including Mental Anguish, you get dramatically outpaced by the Auto Attacks on any other clkitten
ters make great burst, and that’s what they’re balanced around: doing a lot of damage all at once. But since they happen so relatively infrequently, the dps is terrible.

Chronomancer promises to change that somewhat, as alacrity allows shattering more often (and using other skills more often), as well as providing more shatter fodder and even letting phantasms get some damage into the mix. That said, the numbers a full power shatter chronomancer build are still actually fairly low for pve. We’ll have to see how that goes to be sure.

That brings us to condi shatter. Condi shatter now does not provide the dps needed for success in pve outside of killing random hyenas and devourers in the silverwastes. The problem is that confusion and torment are the weakest conditions in PvE at large, so doing damage with them requires stacking them really kitten high, but especially with the nerf to Maim the Disillusioned, you can only get those levels of stacks very briefly (enough to burn down low-health mobs or husks in SW, but not enough for longer fights). The culprit is, once again, those long cooldowns, as you just can’t shatter fast enough to keep up the high stacks you’d need for competitive dps.

Chronomancer again promises some change, but this time with promise. In BWE1 before the Illusionary Reversion nerf, I was able to slaughter an entire line of husk slingers in seconds. The combination of condis on every shatter, alacrity on every shatter, quickness on every shatter (I didn’t use Chronophantasma), and extra clones on shatters gave me a really rapid application rate, which made it competitive.
The nerf to IR slowed down the pace and requires Chronophantasma to keep up a cadence, so it’s not as good, but it still promises to be useful, and we’ll have to see if the build survives to HoT.

As it stands, the only shatter build that is competitive in pve is a Chronomancer condition shatter build assuming it remains unchanged, but which will only be available when Heart of Thorns is released.

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Posted by: nakirush.7531

nakirush.7531

So sad. I’ve never enjoyed Phantasm builds. Guess I gotta just tough it out until HoT (hopefully).

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Posted by: AlphatheWhite.9351

AlphatheWhite.9351

So sad. I’ve never enjoyed Phantasm builds. Guess I gotta just tough it out until HoT (hopefully).

I run a clone condi build, staff/scepter+pistol. Chaos/Dueling/Illusions, rabid gear (sinister would probably work just fine, with more dps).

The focus for long-term dps is bleeds from iDuelist, clones and my own staff AA, but I often turn to shattering to hasten the fight (or to not waste clones/phants that are about to die).

Shattering isn’t very useful in boss or champion fights, but in open-world content I shatter enough that you might be happy.

I also don’t worry much about phantasms. Even though iDuelist applies more bleeds/dps than a clone does, clone dps is high enough that I don’t stress the phantasms at all.

I know it doesn’t do everything you’d want, but it’s a halfway point, PvE-wise.

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Posted by: Blades of Sabatine.5639

Blades of Sabatine.5639

I have been experimenting with power, Hybrid and condi shatter build myself. It ok, not great but it works. It is also effective as an aoe damage.

I run scepter+pistol and s/s or scepter+focus if you need to move fast. Domination/Dueling/Illusion gear varies as i have different gear depending on my mood, from Sinister to Elemental.

One thing I do which most people don’t is I shatter even with 1 clone up. Yes you might not get the full bust damage but dose little condi damage adds up fast.

Note:
Because our clones don’t last in fights, while wait to summon 2 or 3 before shatter, while not shatter and get that condi on fast, summon another with any of your other skills or utility and shatter again before the first condi runs it cause.
1, This starts to add up fast
2, you have some kind of sustain condi damage.

You can also apply this concept to power shatter.