Guild Wars 2

They start recharging after you’ve channeled them. Is this new? I can chain mantra of recovery now.

Yeah it’s amazing!

Best change ever. I still can’t believe it.

inb4 mantra of recovery cooldown nerf – you can essentially spam the heal continuously with a few seconds in between each activation – nevermind the restorative mantras trait…

Only downside is RSI on your heal finger. :p

Passive recharging is something Mantras have needed for awhile. Can they still be manually charged?

Curunen.8729:

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Only downside is RSI on your heal finger. :p

Just set it for auto attack.

Dastion.3106:

Passive recharging is something Mantras have needed for awhile. Can they still be manually charged?

You still have to manually charge them – they only cooldown in the background after having been charged.

Ooh I see. The CD on recharging the Mantras cools down in the background (ie 10s between MoRecovery). I had the false hope that they passively regained charges.

Dastion.3106:

Ooh I see. The CD on recharging the Mantras cools down in the background (ie 10s between MoRecovery). I had the false hope that they passively regained charges.

It’s still amazing with restorative mantras because pretty much by the time you’re done using two charges (given you will be using other skills in between as well) you can recharge again and heal yourself. I haven’t tried it with harmonious mantras yet but…

I think this might mean full mantra builds might be pretty decent now, although still mechanically difficult.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

Doubtful that this was intended. I think some Dev misread the note telling him to make Mantras recharge passively, and he worked on the wrong part of that. ;-)

No, it seems working like intended because the whole point of mantras was that you get very low cooldowns in exchange for the cost of having a cast time that doesn’t let you do anything in the meantime.

It’s a very nice change for PvE and I hope duelists complaining about PU mesmers using it don’t get the heal gutted for everybody else. PvP always has the effect of ruining it for other people.

Besides, this change makes the mantra heal actually competitive as every mesmer was using ether feast or signet of illusions. And in spvp I still doubt mesmers will be using this heal as thieves got even more buffed and they will headshot interrupt your mantra cast all day all night.

Is this in the patch notes? Sounds almost too good to be true. This means if you space out your uses you never actually experience the cd, just the charge time. To be honest this is actually totally balanced, just so gigantic an improvement form the horrible way they have been that I doubt it’s real.

Perhaps though they did this because another class is getting mantras for their elite specialization and Anet realized they had to make the functionality not garbage.

MSFone.3026:

Is this in the patch notes?

It’s an undocumented change.

Perhaps though they did this because another class is getting mantras for their elite specialization and Anet realized they had to make the functionality not garbage.

Cynicism FTW. I’m betting Thief gets the Mantras.

The Mantras are amazing now and imho the single most amazing change for Mesmers

I’m speechless.

Logged in had my mantra build on and booom i can beat everything now. Nah thief still hardcounter especial sword pistol ones! Knight gear and melee mesmer is born. Perma protection group shared boons, stability.

Its awsome you finally have a active play thx thx thx

Oh, yeah, in case anyone didn’t notice, the tooltip on Mantra of Concentration is wrong. Actually gives 5 stacks of Stability, not 3.

Menaka.5092:

Oh, yeah, in case anyone didn’t notice, the tooltip on Mantra of Concentration is wrong. Actually gives 5 stacks of Stability, not 3.

ye, still 2s uptime sucks

Na, it’s a mantra – it’s for the momentum, we aren’t guardians

Personally I think this is either a bug or a huge hidden buff wich I think it isn’t

Waitt how does his work? Does it only work in combat?
I tried it multiple times and nothing happens. Even though it seems to randomly happen sometimes when in combat.

This could be really useful to keep up the mantra damage trait.

Basically, the cooldown starts counting when you finish charging the mantra, instead than when you use the last charge. If you charge the mantra, wait for a few seconds and burn the charges, the mantra will be ready to charge again.
Very nice change that works well with Restorative Mantras.

I can’t see such a change being anything else than a bug…
This would be too amazing not to be documented in the first place.

This surely has to be an intended change, to make it easier to maintain Mantra Strength stacks. Wasn’t that everyone’s big concern before? That you’d have to burn your precious mantra charges to maintain the damage bonus? This change ties directly into allowing us to do that more easily.

It’s definitly a bug :P

It’s definitely not. See, I can make baseless assertions too.

No, Xyonon makes a good point. It’s something nice that Mesmers got, so clearly it must be a bug that will be hotfixed out shortly.

Considering the wind up time to use it, it makes sense for it to NOT be a bug. Otherwise, whoever unfortunately gets stuck with Mantras in their Elite Spec will just throw them aside.

consider that our mantras didn’t have the cooldown reduced and we lost the cooldown reduction trait: I think this solution is what ANet (shall we say Robert?) devised to make up for it

and it’s great!