Guild Wars 2

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/

This calculator can find out the perfect combination of equipment to push your stats to there max.

In the Thief sub-forum there is a brilliant post trying to find the best mix of stats for a damage build.

So wondered if a few people want to get together and see what we can push the Mesmer max to.

Going to take Fay’s build as the starter build. http://www.destinysedge.net/fay/mesmer/fay.html

10,30,0,25,5

So lets see what the max you can get is, in a power/crit damage orientated build.

This isn’t really a tough question. 10/30/0/25/5 with full berserker gear is the most damage you can do with phantasms.

You cant do damage if yer dead.

I run 5 x zerker armor, 1 knight for chest.
Back zerker
Accesories Cavalier
Zerker weapons

Effective Power 3327.92
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

With 30% Dmg to Phantasms.

Can anyone do any better?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|1.0.h2|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|0.0|33.34.35.3m.0|e

Pyroatheist.9031:

This isn’t really a tough question. 10/30/0/25/5 with full berserker gear is the most damage you can do with phantasms.

This.

Wolfield.9812:

Effective Power 3327.92
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

With 30% Dmg to Phantasms.

Can anyone do any better?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|1.0.h2|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|0.0|33.34.35.3m.0|e

this
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|c.1g.h4.c.1g.h3|1.0.h2|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|2e.1|33.34.35.3m.0|e
Effective Power 4344.06
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

btw. dueling X not so good for phantasms. i just copy/paste ur build with small change

shimmerless.4560:

I’ve said this elsewhere but the “effective power”/“effective health” figures on that site are total smoke and mirrors and I wouldn’t take them seriously at all.

The effective health is actually decent. Effective power is pretty useless though, especially when dealing with a phantasm build.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|c.1g.h4.c.1g.h3|1.0.h2|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|2e.1|33.34.35.3m.0|e
Effective Power 4344.06
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

Ok can anyone get higher than this. Open to any build, to find the top stats possible on this site. Any other problems with trying to have an interesting thread of theory crafting, just let me know.

Pyroatheist.9031:

This isn’t really a tough question. 10/30/0/25/5 with full berserker gear is the most damage you can do with phantasms.

Maybe we have to change something soon:

The Minor Adept trait “Illusionists Celerity” has been made the Minor Grandmaster trait and the other Minor traits have been pushed down.

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/sky-pirates-tyria-traits-preview-part-one

Belenwyn.8674:

Pyroatheist.9031:

This isn’t really a tough question. 10/30/0/25/5 with full berserker gear is the most damage you can do with phantasms.

Maybe we have to change something soon:

The Minor Adept trait “Illusionists Celerity” has been made the Minor Grandmaster trait and the other Minor traits have been pushed down.

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/sky-pirates-tyria-traits-preview-part-one

Interesting. If true, that’s an absolutely abysmal change. I can’t think of a single sensible reason to make that change other than increasing the power creep towards shatter builds.

Regardless though, this thread is stupid. Remind me why we’re posting full zerker builds with for no apparent reason? There’s a difference between theorycrafting an interesting build and just tossing full zerker into a build calculator and saying ‘hey guys, I made a build that does damage!!!’

Wolfield.9812:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|c.1g.h4.c.1g.h3|1.0.h2|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|2e.1|33.34.35.3m.0|e
Effective Power 4344.06
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

Ok can anyone get higher than this. Open to any build, to find the top stats possible on this site. Any other problems with trying to have an interesting thread of theory crafting, just let me know.

This is more of a shatter build than a phantasm build. With Decoy, Mirror Images and Clone on Evade you’ll be overwriting your phantasms VERY frequently, thus reducing their overall impact on the battle.

That said, it’s a good looking build … just not sure it meets the requirements set forth by the OP.

agree aside mirror image is a must in difficult parts…

WIthout it an Emergency F4 is unreliable.
You don t want to shatter with F4 obviously but if you need to you need to have something to shatter.

Sure. Not disputing its usefulness in both offensive and defensive shattering.

My phantasm build currently uses Decoy for escape which arguably doesn’t belong in a Phantasm build either. I only use it defensively when my heal or phantoms are on cooldown. I prefer it over Veil because Decoy has a much shorter cool down for roughly the same benefits in a 1vX situation.

Utilities aside though, the clone on evade trait alone is enough to destroy the damage potential of any Phantasm build. That’s really all I was getting at.

drongas.4189:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|c.1g.h4.c.1g.h3|1.0.h2|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|2e.1|33.34.35.3m.0|e
Effective Power 4344.06
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

btw. dueling X not so good for phantasms. i just copy/paste ur build with small change

@drongas – Just realized that you already mentioned dueling X (clone on evade) being less than ideal for Phantasm builds. Sorry for repeating that in my earlier post.

Given that, I took a stab at a pure phantasm build with your build as a starting point. I kept an equal distribution of Zerker + Soldiers gear, tweaked the traits a bit and swapped out the sigils:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|c.1g.h2.d.1g.h1|1.0.h2|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.p42.a0.p58.0|2e.1|33.34.35.3m.0|e

Effective Power – 4601.21 ( +257.15 )
Effective Health – 23144 ( +1078 )
Damage Reduction – 14.53% ( +4.18% )
Reference Armor – 1836 ( unchanged )

Here we show gains in effective power and critical chance with the added benefits of:

• increased damage reduction
• projectile reflection via focus skills
• maneuverability via swiftness (focus #4)
• condition cleansing via Arcane Thievery

I’ll be testing it out this evening as it seems to be a bit of an improvement on the toughness based phantasm build I’ve been running recently.

I agree that to TRULY max out effective power we need to go full zerker but as others have said, you can’t kill stuff when you’re dead =]