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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

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Since lots of people continue to ask me what i play in pvp, I will share it in forum.
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I have a lot of pvp match as Mesmer, I played countless build. So i decided to do something good for the Dev of gw2. I chose to use the considered as useless PVP trait and make a build.

You will meet people insulting you at match begin, calling you PU. You’ll get insulted for using MOA. You’ll get insulted for using a totally different build from other people and using 2 signet.

But this build is quite useful, and somehow unique

After sharing the build with other people i began to see more and more people with Signet as mesmer.

I join 2 videos for you to see what you can and you can not do. (i could choose easy win videos but i didn’t). You can also see how you can get insulted.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

StickerHappy.8052

Where is that feedback coming from?

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

TyPin.9860

from rezzing xD

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Chronomancy works, I am proof of it. Now stop asking me questions. Time must be preserved!

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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Well there’s nothing inherently wrong with the build. Menders Purity is a waste on signit of ether with its 35s cd. You’re better off taking something else and just not getting hit with conditions to begin with. But whatever, if you like it you like it, no real harm in the build as it is.

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

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there is nothing you can use beside Purity, i tried all possible combo and it is the best. it helps out
I don’t want to sell off or give value to my build. I guess nobody would ever use it.

How many people use medic feedback 0-5%
How many people use Shattered condition 0-10%
How many people use blurred inscription 0-2%

How many people use it together in the same build guess only 1

I wanted also a true build using 2 full trait, what make it even more unique.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

there is nothing you can use beside Purity, i tried all possible combo and it is the best. it helps out
I don’t want to sell off or give value to my build. I guess nobody would ever use it.

How many people use medic feedback 0-5%
How many people use Shattered condition 0-10%
How many people use blurred inscription 0-2%

How many people use it together in the same build guess only 1

I wanted also a true build using 2 full trait, what make it even more unique.

There are a lot of mesmers out there running fringe builds. Some of those mesmers are better than others, some of those builds are better than others. I’ve been impressed on the odd occasion. That said, I’m often far more unimpressed with the shatter mesmers I see out there, and apparently that’s “meta”.

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http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR8ansISZa2gGOqBzaGR1YOdTBNFpCo0ds9IA-TZBCwAAOCAauIAhLDw4BA8f/BASSA

Hello, probably this build can be better

ps: you can use too ether feast probably

Bye bye mates

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

Seyiwaji.4082

video3
video4 —>the last fight was not to kill, but i had to stand on point for them not to decap, even if it means death.

Video5 —>;this guard was so funny, look at his position all the match, even running away. ( he can not even count….). And he called us noob while me and the ranger were fighting 3 people.
Well i did play kitten, while eating and listening to my wife.
Video6 —> heavy lost…..

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Posted by: AnniMira.2506

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For wvw, I varied my 0 2 6 0 6 build to 0 2 0 6 6 with Shattered Conditions. As explained, my play style is not 1v1 but more like panicing in zerg-zerg fights where I hit F1-F4 with Illusionary Person. If SC works like I understand, each F1 to F4 removes one condition from 5 allies – 20 conditions removed. How it is?

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Posted by: jportell.2197

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there is nothing you can use beside Purity, i tried all possible combo and it is the best. it helps out
I don’t want to sell off or give value to my build. I guess nobody would ever use it.

How many people use medic feedback 0-5%
How many people use Shattered condition 0-10%
How many people use blurred inscription 0-2%

How many people use it together in the same build guess only 1

I wanted also a true build using 2 full trait, what make it even more unique.

There are a lot of mesmers out there running fringe builds. Some of those mesmers are better than others, some of those builds are better than others. I’ve been impressed on the odd occasion. That said, I’m often far more unimpressed with the shatter mesmers I see out there, and apparently that’s “meta”.

It’s easy to be unimpressed with shatter mesmers mainly because shatter mesmer has one of the highest skillcaps of any build in the game. Making it one of the hardest to be effective with.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

there is nothing you can use beside Purity, i tried all possible combo and it is the best. it helps out
I don’t want to sell off or give value to my build. I guess nobody would ever use it.

How many people use medic feedback 0-5%
How many people use Shattered condition 0-10%
How many people use blurred inscription 0-2%

How many people use it together in the same build guess only 1

I wanted also a true build using 2 full trait, what make it even more unique.

There are a lot of mesmers out there running fringe builds. Some of those mesmers are better than others, some of those builds are better than others. I’ve been impressed on the odd occasion. That said, I’m often far more unimpressed with the shatter mesmers I see out there, and apparently that’s “meta”.

It’s easy to be unimpressed with shatter mesmers mainly because shatter mesmer has one of the highest skillcaps of any build in the game. Making it one of the hardest to be effective with.

Just to be a bit pedantic here, highest skillcap has absolutely zero correlation to a high skill floor. Shatter builds happen to have both a high skill floor and a high skill cap, but every mesmer build in the game has a high skill cap.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

there is nothing you can use beside Purity, i tried all possible combo and it is the best. it helps out
I don’t want to sell off or give value to my build. I guess nobody would ever use it.

How many people use medic feedback 0-5%
How many people use Shattered condition 0-10%
How many people use blurred inscription 0-2%

How many people use it together in the same build guess only 1

I wanted also a true build using 2 full trait, what make it even more unique.

There are a lot of mesmers out there running fringe builds. Some of those mesmers are better than others, some of those builds are better than others. I’ve been impressed on the odd occasion. That said, I’m often far more unimpressed with the shatter mesmers I see out there, and apparently that’s “meta”.

It’s easy to be unimpressed with shatter mesmers mainly because shatter mesmer has one of the highest skillcaps of any build in the game. Making it one of the hardest to be effective with.

Just to be a bit pedantic here, highest skillcap has absolutely zero correlation to a high skill floor. Shatter builds happen to have both a high skill floor and a high skill cap, but every mesmer build in the game has a high skill cap.

Lol a bit pedantic eh… well either way that is why it is hard for people to be impressed with shatter mesmers….

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

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For wvw, I varied my 0 2 6 0 6 build to 0 2 0 6 6 with Shattered Conditions. As explained, my play style is not 1v1 but more like panicing in zerg-zerg fights where I hit F1-F4 with Illusionary Person. If SC works like I understand, each F1 to F4 removes one condition from 5 allies – 20 conditions removed. How it is?

The problem is with 0.2.0.6.6, it is really hard to produce clone. You will clean 4 condi if you have 3 clone + yourself. But without DE, it wouldn’t be so usefull.

I tried the 0.2.0.6.6 it is very very limited.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

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I actually like this build. Any build utilizing that mega stun with pistol/S.Dom has potential for being devastating in a team fight.

I’m just happy people are experimenting more with signets. They have always been severely underrated due to being subpar utilities on their own, but when traited for, they become VERY effective.

I may come back and critique it more, but I would potentially switch up a few things. S. Midnight > Blink is obvious for me, as a distortion with S. Midnight every 24s is totally OP. Also, I’d probably take the Signet cooldown instead of illusion buff. I feel like it’s really needed here to make the signets worth it.

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

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Yes Signet of Midnight with distortion give you huge advantage in fight, but i had to choose between it and Blink. Since i wanted some mobility i took blink. Decoy is a must since i don’t use stab or torch.

The Cooldown on Signet is an heavy weakness, i already thought about it.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

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Yes Signet of Midnight with distortion give you huge advantage in fight, but i had to choose between it and Blink. Since i wanted some mobility i took blink. Decoy is a must since i don’t use stab or torch.

The Cooldown on Signet is an heavy weakness, i already thought about it.

Mobility is king. I get it, but I simply put emphasis on winning team fights, and distortion on a 24 second S. Midnight is god tiers more helpful than Blink could ever try to be. Personal preference, but Blink is great.

It just looks like, at first glance, you’re starting a good thing with Blurred Inscriptions but that isn’t enough to have 2 signets on your bar. Signets typically need to be traited for more heavily to be of great use. Their CDs are atrocious, and this would be your biggest hindrance imo.

Since I’m a signet fanboy, I’ll give your vids a look and give some more opinions! Thanks for your contribution!

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

i didnt watch all your videos
but it seems that you play phantasm build as they do all the dmg
if so you aint fully utilize them right
also it seems that your group carry you as in 3v3 you lost but in 3v1 you win so its hard to say how effective your build is

also dont use moa on 10% hp enemy and try to save your GS push #5 when the guardian not immune to it

so i guess you as mesmer player are good as you know positioning which is the first thing to learn about mesmer
gg and keep experiment builds

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

Seyiwaji.4082

i wonder whitch Vid you are talking about…. But YES i remember did such heavy mistakes from time to time. Sometimes i do play kitten Bad game.
I would invite you to look more of the vid.

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Posted by: jenzie.4083

jenzie.4083

I’ve been playing with a quite similar build but I use mantras and sc+p / sw+f and traited focus. I mostly play solo in WvW but I tried it in spvp and it worked pretty well (without the Defender rune though).

It works extremely well against rangers, necros, warriors and engineers. Got totally obliterated by a guardian (he just ate my phantasms and health) and it works quite well against thiefs and eles, eles take time but down they go. The weakness is boon ripping which could be addressed by taking null field or AT.

It has really nice dps and good pressure capabilities. I’ve even fallen in love with the focus which I hated before. The defender Rune is quite amazing too, that aegis every 10 sec is such a life saver and the 4-5k heal that pops suddenly is like a christmas present every time.

I’ll see if I can put together some vids.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQRAsd7al0npMt1oxRNcrNiphc6qdXSqAlO0pFA-TVCEABEcCASU9ntUCykyPDOCAkv/Qb6HA4BA8wBBIAACQ2M2MwNv5Nv5NvZpAiYMA-w

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

Seyiwaji.4082

nice build, surely hard to play without Deceptiv Evasion, isn’kitten

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Posted by: Mak.2657

Mak.2657

Just looked 1st video. Dat last stomp fail loss.
Happens

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

Seyiwaji.4082

Yeah… that was a big fail….. Because of me the team lost (we could say)

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Posted by: Mak.2657

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Not saying that. Just most tense and intrigue moment in match. “Who will manage to get last points first?” Almost thriller culmination