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Posted by: The Kape.3672

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Bah. Needs more DPS.

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

yes this class needs more dps hope they make it stronger soon

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Posted by: Aveneo.2068

Aveneo.2068

yes this class needs more dps hope they make it stronger soon

Have to agree as your warrior managed to kill it in half the time.

Just saw your other videos too. Ranger in 17s and Necro in 18s. Wow, so much for Mesmer dps.

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Posted by: Causic.3798

Causic.3798

Necro killed it in 18 seconds, I thought we would atleast beat them =(
Oh well lol

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

No mantras and a warden? Not a dps build imo.

But if we are going to get.buffed for this video… Nice job!

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Posted by: Soul.5947

Soul.5947

guardian killed it in 11 sec

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

No mantras and a warden? Not a dps build imo.

But if we are going to get.buffed for this video… Nice job!

waiting for your own video

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

What kind of response is that?

What i am trying to say is thatYOU can improve YOUR time if you take empowering mantras and pick duelist and swordsman

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

Krispera.5087

What kind of response is that?

What i am trying to say is thatYOU can improve YOUR time if you take empowering mantras and pick duelist and swordsman

He’s clearly trying to make an announcement for his guild. Also, by the way he’s replying you, he doesn’t care about improving. He’s clicking everything in ALL his videos after all.

Let this thread die. Sorry for making it at top again guys.

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

what am i trying is to get the classes with dps builds, and if you want to help show me your own videos it will help me like other classes already helped

Using videos to improove the understanding in the use of the builds rather then just read a comment saying if you do this it will be better then that.

Acept the challenge and help me you might help a lot of people did you stop to think about it?

BTW it attracts players for GW2

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Posted by: Vash.1920

Vash.1920

No mantras and a warden? Not a dps build imo.

But if we are going to get.buffed for this video… Nice job!

waiting for your own video

Mantra/reflect
For example one option 30/30/0/0/10
mantra % buff illu % buff phantasm % buff all offensive stats pushed o max + vulnerability. High dmg from mesmer results also in reflects which is obviously hard to demonstrate on this mob.

but go ahead with making videos i liked it for your courage and not beeing afraid about such a response, but sadly for u the responses are true. All pioneers stood alone at the beginning of their journey! But u should really think about your builds before u publish it in wrong terms! u´ve been missing at least 12%-16% dmg by mantras, so it´s not really a dps build for pve.

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

No mantras and a warden? Not a dps build imo.

But if we are going to get.buffed for this video… Nice job!

waiting for your own video

Mantra/reflect
For example one option 30/30/0/0/10
mantra % buff illu % buff phantasm % buff all offensive stats pushed o max + vulnerability. High dmg from mesmer results also in reflects which is obviously hard to demonstrate on this mob.

but go ahead with making videos i liked it for your courage and not beeing afraid about such a response, but sadly for u the responses are true. All pioneers stood alone at the beginning of their journey! But u should really think about your builds before u publish it in wrong terms! u´ve been missing at least 12%-16% dmg by mantras, so it´s not really a dps build for pve.

Will give it a try, i dont bother with the clicker lovers

Cant beat the 30sec with that build
Or im doing it wrong rotations cause im getting worst times
Someone can do a video to challenge this class?

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Sorry if my answer sounded rude. As you can notice I am not a native speaker.

I can not play at this moment , as my gf father is visiting us, so no play time. I will try to improve your time next week. Also you need to tell me a good software to record videos in a 3 tears old computer.

You can check brazil dps test on google. He is around 20 if i recall correctly.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

I checked Brazil. Sorry I reacalled very wrongly. He got your very same time. He wasn’t using mantras neither.

Ok, now I really want to do it myself.

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

I’ll try it tonight with both 30/30/0/0/10 and the “meta” build for organised group 10/30/0/20/10

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

I wonder how long I take … well I know what to do tonight xD

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

I just visited necro forum, necro killed in 13 secs…

I don’t understand. On the indestructible golem in the mists, a mesmer (30/30/0/0/10) is as fast as a warrior. Which is huge for the ramp up time that we need to set up phantasms.
Also, with the same build and just with 3 swords clons (we got 20 stacks of vulnerability), mesmer are faster than a dagger necro(30/25/0/0/15).

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

Thanks guys to push for it this is good to see how much the classes can give to us hope to see better results from you tonight

Im asking in the other threads if someone can do the test for ele and engi would be great

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Probably is worth to wait til the patch is active as I feel Anet is going to change quite a bunch of things.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Well at Dec. 10. we are able to start the fight with 3 phantasms … so …

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Yeah, I have great hopes with this change. Otherwise, I am really thinking into shelving my mesmer.

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

yes after 10 december would be great to see their potential worths to wait.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Yeah, I have great hopes with this change. Otherwise, I am really thinking into shelving my mesmer.

If you are about damage only – yes. However passive damage, utility (incl reflection) and a almost 200k dmg TW is what the Mesmer is about.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Nah I am just venting. I love mesmer playstyle. Doesnt mean that I want as max dps as possible tho

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Posted by: Karazul.2934

Karazul.2934

Try using Hounds of Balthazar… TW and the other elites doesnt help at this kind of speed test.

After the patch tomorrow mesmers will be able to start the fight with 3 phantasms up, and with the changes to IC most builds will get a dps boost.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

The problem with Mesmer DPS is Confusion damage, it depends on how fast your target uses skills. The faster they use skills, the higher your DPS. So, using the giant as a gauge for DPS can be misleading.

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Posted by: Saturn.6591

Saturn.6591

The problem with Mesmer DPS is Confusion damage, it depends on how fast your target uses skills. The faster they use skills, the higher your DPS. So, using the giant as a gauge for DPS can be misleading.

Well, that may be true for condition mesmers, but not for those who go for direct damage. Which is where our highest dps is located at usually (an exception might be if you somehow manage to get 25 stacks confusion + some bleeding on a mob (or player lol) and this mob (or player) spams attacks like no tomorrow… but yeah; I guess it’s safe to say that this won’t happen often enough to count on it for dps).

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

With 30/30/0/0/10 I made a 16s kill i’ll try to upload it tmr

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Posted by: The Kape.3672

The Kape.3672

With 30/30/0/0/10 I made a 16s kill i’ll try to upload it tmr

Nice want to see how its the rotation

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

If you’d use the pistol you’d even be faster – ty vm for the vid

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

Yeah I didn’t try pistol, but the point of the warden was to have a phantasm close to the giant for a quick shatter But I’ll try with a pistol tonight I guess ^^

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Yup, since Warden really just attacked once

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Also try to use sword#2 on cooldown. Is a small tiny increase respect AA but an increase nevertheless. Nice video.

Which sword is that by the way

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

Thanks ^^ Yeah like I said in the description I made a few mistakes, I really didn’t try to have a perfect kill time. The main hand sword is Bolt and the off hand one is the Fiery Dragon Sword from the HoM

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Posted by: Karazul.2934

Karazul.2934

Nice video Jerem. Have you tried using Hounds as elite? At guardian forum they used and it was a dps increase.

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

If you look at the video description, you’ll see that I didn’t use Hound of Balthazar because I only wanted to use mesmer skills and not racial skills But I know it’ll be a burst increase since I was able to do a 20s kill without TW with the 30/30/0/0/10 build

Also in a group setup, Hounds of Balthazar isn’t a viable option.

EDIT: It seems my warden was bugged after the first spin, so under 15s can be done easily i’d say

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Posted by: frifox.5283

frifox.5283

The best I could get with 10/15/0/25/20 (III-II-V/IX-III/X, s/s, s/p) was 22.3 seconds. Compared to the 16s kill that’s 40% slower. Do builds really make THAT much difference?

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Posted by: Valarauka.2719

Valarauka.2719

Yes. He has 200 more power, 150 more precision, 15% more crit chance, 12% more damage from mantras, and maybe ~10% more damage due to vulnerability stacks.
All of that adds up to a pretty huge difference.

This is basically why the hardcore dungeon runners are so obsessed with optimal builds and berserker gear. Consider that just a build change made you kill 40% slower, even though your gear is as good; now think about someone who’s gone for tankier gear and a more ‘supportive’ build, you can easily end up taking three times longer to kill things than the ‘optimized’ player.

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Posted by: frifox.5283

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I cheated in some of my off-the-record attempts by using Dragon’s Breath Buns instead of curry butternut squash soup and killing trash before engaging the Giant to gain +200 power. The kill time was practically equal to my normal attempts (~1 second difference).

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

I am dissapointed with the new signet. I just had time to do a fast test (30-30-0-0-10) on the indestructible golem on the mists. The signet activation time is soo long that I actually got a poorer time compared to full mantras

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Posted by: frifox.5283

frifox.5283

Veteran Risen Giant = 126,192 health

16s kill = 7,887 dps
15s kill = 8,413 dps

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Did you increase your time by changing the build?

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

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I need to try it again when I’ll have time since I didn’t use the daze mantra (for more vuln) and I don’t really need feedback since I can interrupt it when it’s launching the grubs (so i’ll take a 4th mantra for a 4% more dmg boost)

Also I’ll do another try with the boost I get with a group setup (banners, 25 stack of might, fury, 25 stack of vuln on target, spotter, frost spirit)

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

My only issue with 30/30/0/0/10 and.full mantras I feel like a snail. I also think that we sacrifice to much dps if we take travelers or centaur runes. To finsh my venting, it is not fair that we are force to go mantras in order to get damage modifirts

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

I need to try it again when I’ll have time since I didn’t use the daze mantra (for more vuln) and I don’t really need feedback since I can interrupt it when it’s launching the grubs (so i’ll take a 4th mantra for a 4% more dmg boost)

Also I’ll do another try with the boost I get with a group setup (banners, 25 stack of might, fury, 25 stack of vuln on target, spotter, frost spirit)

Eagering to see it. Ty;-)

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

My only issue with 30/30/0/0/10 and.full mantras I feel like a snail. I also think that we sacrifice to much dps if we take travelers or centaur runes. To finsh my venting, it is not fair that we are force to go mantras in order to get damage modifirts

Don’t go travelers in pve. It’s just an expensive WvW rune.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Nope. when I farm 60g I craft level a new toon. :-)
But with so much ascended stuff this days I should start picking I main. A hard thing to do in my case.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Well it’s a pain in the kitten to craft a heavy ascended armor – however I already own the full materials for my ascended armor (except daylies and dragonit ore ofc >_>)

It was a wise desicion to keep 2000 silk xD

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