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Posted by: Auris.6097

Auris.6097

Hey,

I’m an old player returning to the game and recently made a mesmer.

I never really played mesmer and was wondering which build path to go down.

I really like the idea of doing a condition damage build that slowly shred enemies while avoiding agro with clones/invisibility, and can imagine myself having a lot of fun with a condition damage build.

HOWEVER, I’ve seen a few sources that say condition damage mesmer isn’t worth it.

Basically what I want to know is: is a condition damage mesmer build fine for PvE? or is it horrendously weak and unplayable?

If there are any condi builds what are the best utility skills and armour stats to go for?

If there aren’t I’ll probably just down the normal berserk/assassin route.

Thanks for your help.

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Posted by: Ananeos.4587

Ananeos.4587

horrendously weak and unplayable. Try a necro instead.

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Posted by: Morfedel.4165

Morfedel.4165

horrendously weak and unplayable. Try a necro instead.

I completely disagree. I have a condi shatter build that does just fine.

But necro probably is better. What I mean is the condi mesmer isn’t crappy. Just not as good as the necro.

But in exchange, we bring some other stuff. F5 for instance. Better crowd control. Illusions that can pull off agro. Stealth. etc etc.

If you want the best condi in the game, dont go mesmer. But if you want decent condi with options that others dont have, condi mesmer can be fun.

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Posted by: apharma.3741

apharma.3741

You won’t be as good as necro, engy, ranger and possibly warrior for condi damage.

You will only really shine on something with a large amount of HP also…so…yeah.

I too fell for:
“Mesmers are magical duelists who wield deception as a weapon. Using powerful illusions, clones, and phantasmal magic to confuse and distract their foes, mesmers make sure every fight is balanced in their favor and their opponents can’t believe their eyes.”
Turned out to be smoke and mirrors.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

You want to play a PvE build that “slowly shreds enemies”? I mean…sure. There’s lots of ways you can play if you want to kill things slowly, but most people prefer killing things quickly.

If you want to kill things quickly, then condition mesmer is pretty garbage for most situations. You’ll particularly have difficulties in environments where you’re trying to do aoe damage, since that makes you limited to shatter condies…which are undiluted garbage in PvE. For bosses and such you can stack duelists for bleeding which is reasonable. It’s still not good, but it’s not awful.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Heya,

I wonder how many of you REALLY own and play a condi Mes once in a while. Also the statement “other condi professions deal more damage” is just … DUH OFC THEY DO!!! They also do if you are power, still, they DO NOT provide alacrity nor quickness, that’s still our job, also as condi! ~.~ dah…

btt: Condi Mes very viable and I can give you a build for it if you want me to. The only downside compared to power is that you lack alacrity, wich you trade for damage ofc and that you have less general buff uptime due not having shatter CDR → have to wait for CS longer.

There are places where condi is great, for example high lv fotm bosses, but there is also the opposite, like raids or fighting trash mobs. The condi Mes suffers from the same issue every condi profession suffers aswell: No flexibility – you are unable to change traits or weapons, wich makes you weaker overall, especially as a Mesmer. Like – you’d have problems to grant your party a decent reflection uptime, but you can use mimic + feedback + CS then, tough ;3

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Posted by: Ananeos.4587

Ananeos.4587

Heya,

I wonder how many of you REALLY own and play a condi Mes once in a while. Also the statement “other condi professions deal more damage” is just … DUH OFC THEY DO!!! They also do if you are power, still, they DO NOT provide alacrity nor quickness, that’s still our job, also as condi! ~.~ dah…

btt: Condi Mes very viable and I can give you a build for it if you want me to. The only downside compared to power is that you lack alacrity, wich you trade for damage ofc and that you have less general buff uptime due not having shatter CDR -> have to wait for CS longer.

There are places where condi is great, for example high lv fotm bosses, but there is also the opposite, like raids or fighting trash mobs. The condi Mes suffers from the same issue every condi profession suffers aswell: No flexibility – you are unable to change traits or weapons, wich makes you weaker overall, especially as a Mesmer. Like – you’d have problems to grant your party a decent reflection uptime, but you can use mimic + feedback + CS then, tough ;3

Questions?

Greez!
- Madame Le Blanc

Why would I care about condi mes when I can just play necro?

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Cuz it’s not about the condi part – it’s about the Mesmer. duh

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Posted by: Ananeos.4587

Ananeos.4587

Cuz it’s not about the condi part – it’s about the Mesmer. duh

So the reason I would want less condi, less dps and no hard stats increase on my team is because I would want to be in all pink instead?

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Posted by: AlphatheWhite.9351

AlphatheWhite.9351

Cuz it’s not about the condi part – it’s about the Mesmer. duh

So the reason I would want less condi, less dps and no hard stats increase on my team is because I would want to be in all pink instead?

Yes.
And also butterflies.

And clones.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Cuz it’s not about the condi part – it’s about the Mesmer. duh

So the reason I would want less condi, less dps and no hard stats increase on my team is because I would want to be in all pink instead?

No hard stats increase on my team? o.ô

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Posted by: Dinesty.5031

Dinesty.5031

Well, I started maybe a month ago, and the first profession I took was Mesmer. I play a condi mesmer, and I’d have to say it’s fun. It may not be the best in the game, and heck, I’ve probably screwed my build ( I use Carrion for most everything) But I haven’t had a problem with dealing with enemies.

Although, with Carrion I may be considered a tank, given my lvl 80 mesmer has ~25k hp so I just pop down my phantasms and keep up the torment/bleed.

Personally, I followed my own path to a build, and I’ve had lots of fun as a condi mesmer.