Guild Wars 2

If Mesmers are doing to have silly amounts of stealth and mobility then we need to be able to rally off of their clones.

Absolutely not. If that were the case, no one would ever die in a fight with a Mesmer around.

Besides torch, Mesmer stealth skills are long cool down skills. While they’re stealthed that’s your opportunity to heal up, or disengage a bit. Open up some distance, so you can see a burst from stealth coming.

Knee jerk reactions like this are bad for everyone in the community.

I am gonna have to coin the phrase “learn to play”, can see from your signature that you play war, Guardian and ele, well mesmers hard counters war no doubt there, I don’t know what kind of guard build you play but a medi guard shouldn’t have much problem with a shatter mes, as medi has a ton of mobility, dps, burns etc, with ele staff has no chance with shatter mesmer or even condi mesmer, but cele ele might have a chance if you are good…

But anyway each class has its hard counter and to make sure you win you need to practice and ltp unfortunately….

PS if you didn’t know there was a bug last month where ppl could rally off of mes clones, it made mesmers unplayable….

lol – yeah didn’t you see what happened when that rally bug was there. Totally broke mesmers.

And what they all said about stealth (4 skills, usually never more than 3 taken at once, medium/long cooldowns, largely predictable usage, big windows of opportunity to fight back…)

The problem isn’t surviving against them or killing them. I don’t fight stealthies as a general rule because the fights are long and drawn out to unnecessary and annoying lengths. Well past the point of losing interest and fun. I think its more an issue of how much damage they don’t take in comparison to how much damage they do and all while being invisible and porting around. As well being able to generate an endless supply of projectile blockers to hide behind. I used to play a PU mes and now I completely understand why everyone hated us.

Scryeless.1924:

The problem isn’t surviving against them or killing them. I don’t fight stealthies as a general rule because the fights are long and drawn out to unnecessary and annoying lengths. Well past the point of losing interest and fun. I think its more an issue of how much damage they don’t take in comparison to how much damage they do and all while being invisible and porting around. As well being able to generate an endless supply of projectile blockers to hide behind. I used to play a PU mes and now I completely understand why everyone hated us.

Oh so is it PU as a trait then, or stealth in general?

Scryeless.1924:

The problem isn’t surviving against them or killing them.

No, the problem is that you clearly have a long way to go in your mastery of this game. Perhaps come back in a year once you’ve practiced some more.

So wait, I run Decoy, 3s stealth on a 40s cd, and Mass Invis traited, 5s stealth on a 72s cd (usually 90), and this is a silly amount of stealth?

Mobility, I run traited Blink on a 24s cd. You do realize Warriors have a 1200 range Rush skill on their GS with an untraited 20s cd, right? And a ranged weapon with a base 1200 range, and 1500 range burst skill, ya? Access to perma swiftness?

This is a learn to fight Mesmer issue.

Mobility? In combat and out of combat is pretty bad compared to almost every other class.

Scryeless.1924:

I used to play a PU mes and now I completely understand why everyone hated us.

You do know they just nerfed PU, right? Probably since you played it last?

I do enjoy it when a Mesmer takes PU and a torch. There’s a ton of things I don’t have to worry about. A second DPS phantasm for one, imobs from interrupts. I also get regular 4s breathers while they sit in stealth, which is nice.

This is the most moronic thing I’ve had the displeasure of seeing on these forums. I really hope for your sake you’re joking.

FYI: This did happen once as a bug, it was horrible and got patched pretty quickly as Mesmer was unplayable.

You’re all wasting your time with this guy. Read his post history. He has huge time gaps in his post history suggesting long breaks from the game, and spends the majority of his time in WvW. He also has multiple posts about how he wants stealth ‘removed from the game completely’.

Everyone just move on. Nothing constructive will come from this thread.

Mikkel.8427:

You’re all wasting your time with this guy. Read his post history. He has huge time gaps in his post history suggesting long breaks from the game, and spends the majority of his time in WvW. He also has multiple posts about how he wants stealth ‘removed from the game completely’.

Everyone just move on. Nothing constructive will come from this thread.

I’d already forgotten who he was. I blame you for bringing him back to our attention :p

Sits patiently for OP to return

Scryeless.1924:

If Mesmers are doing to have silly amounts of stealth and mobility then we need to be able to rally off of their clones.

A bug existed briefly that did precisely that, it literally made it impossible for Mesmers to defeat someone permanently. clones in particular are easy to kill even with down still number 1. The mesmer would be completely neutered.

Granted, a Mesmer using clothes and stuff can be hard to track, act of the matter is they have little in terms of Defense is too otherwise increase the toughness essential a problem that for example the Elementalist doesn’t help. This is there only real means of Defense, and you wanted completely neutered.

It does take a little more skill to learn how to fight a Mesmer with cloaks and clones, but it certainly can be done, I suggest you work harder at learning how to do it.