Guild Wars 2

It’s simple: Allow mesmer to use stealth as an instant utility skill ( like signets, shouts, etc ).
Or at least, only when you are using the specific trait ( Cleansing Conflagration Trait )

Something like condition/cc remover ( like cleansing water, blinding powder, etc ).

What do you think?

Nope. I would rather have the devs work on some of these

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-s-Bugged-Skills-Still-Piling-Up

torch stealth is awesome atm, its nice for burst dmg , nice stealth

torch 5 could use some buffs but thats all about it

Wyrden.4713:

torch stealth is awesome atm, its nice for burst dmg , nice stealth

torch 5 could use some buffs but thats all about it

This. #4 is fine, #5 needs a bit of love.

Focus needs fixing priority – reduce ItV delay to 0.5s (1s is overstepping the mark, as is usually done in balance changes) and fix iwarden.

I would love if you could decide when to apply the blast finisher (as you do with Temporal Curtain/Into the void). And a better phantasm.

Menaka.5092:

I would love if you could decide when to apply the blast finisher (as you do with Temporal Curtain/Into the void).

This would be perfect! So the first skill is to stealth, the 2nd skill that appears would be to trigger the blast aoe. No more ruined chain stealth and finally a reliable blast finisher. Great idea!!

but most ppl use torch 4, then swap, then go next to enemy , gs2, shatter, the moment u come out of stealth is same as the moment u either throw gs2 or shatter and makingit an awesome burst dmg and adding 3 s burn on top of it, adding the burst to be a second skill use would make this combo bit weaker, torch 4 doesnt rly need ‘buffs’

iwarden is more important

Really? I tend to stay in sword for my shatters. With the whole 3-3-2 combo to insure a full burst. GS isn’t my burst weapon, it’s more of the “I’m on cool down and that last burst didn’t kill them so I’m going to get as far as possible while still doing damage” weapon.

blurred frenzy’s damage is much lower than mirror blade when used in close range. Then again much less obvious to use and it’s a faster spike.

Dammerung.6419:

Really? I tend to stay in sword for my shatters. With the whole 3-3-2 combo to insure a full burst. GS isn’t my burst weapon, it’s more of the “I’m on cool down and that last burst didn’t kill them so I’m going to get as far as possible while still doing damage” weapon.

check the guys video, volume 7, he uses the torch 4 then gw2 burst few times. it hits quite hard and 1 shots ppl w the combo

edit: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guild-Wars-2-Epic-Mesmer-WvW-Montage-Vol/first#post4068373

BlackDevil.9268:

blurred frenzy’s damage is much lower than mirror blade when used in close range. Then again much less obvious to use and it’s a faster spike.

Did not realize that. I don’t generally do number crunching with the tool tips so I’m not sure how the damage indicator works. So with 3 bounces, you get 3 might, and 6 vulnerability on the target at ~500 dmg (2 hits). Is that correct? Whereas blurred frenzy hits for ~800dmg. I’m not sure on the math with the boons/debuffs, so I’m guessing that’s how gs overtakes sword in burst damage? Must do some testing after work, I guess.

Wyrden.4713:

check the guys video, volume 7, he uses the torch 4 then gw2 burst few times. it hits quite hard and 1 shots ppl w the combo

edit: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guild-Wars-2-Epic-Mesmer-WvW-Montage-Vol/first#post4068373

Can’t find an example in vid. Mostly see him get out of gs, immediately torch stealth, and do the 3-3-2 combo + prestige shatter burst or uses it purely for defense to cover a heal/blink/whatever.

Is the gs shatter reliable enough? I can see the mirror blades clone and yourself hitting, but the others?

Is this gs-prestige shatter combo worth it over a reliable blast finisher and removing that annoying reveal at the end (that is, not triggering the aoe and using it purely defensively)? Also keep in mind, not everyone runs gs when considering the pros and cons of this change.

Dammerung.6419:

BlackDevil.9268:

blurred frenzy’s damage is much lower than mirror blade when used in close range. Then again much less obvious to use and it’s a faster spike.

Did not realize that. I don’t generally do number crunching with the tool tips so I’m not sure how the damage indicator works. So with 3 bounces, you get 3 might, and 6 vulnerability on the target at ~500 dmg (2 hits). Is that correct? Whereas blurred frenzy hits for ~800dmg. I’m not sure on the math with the boons/debuffs, so I’m guessing that’s how gs overtakes sword in burst damage? Must do some testing after work, I guess.

Wyrden.4713:

check the guys video, volume 7, he uses the torch 4 then gw2 burst few times. it hits quite hard and 1 shots ppl w the combo

edit: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guild-Wars-2-Epic-Mesmer-WvW-Montage-Vol/first#post4068373

Can’t find an example in vid. Mostly see him get out of gs, immediately torch stealth, and do the 3-3-2 combo + prestige shatter burst or uses it purely for defense to cover a heal/blink/whatever.

Is the gs shatter reliable enough? I can see the mirror blades clone and yourself hitting, but the others?

Is this gs-prestige shatter combo worth it over a reliable blast finisher and removing that annoying reveal at the end (that is, not triggering the aoe and using it purely defensively)? Also keep in mind, not everyone runs gs when considering the pros and cons of this change.

torch 4, swap to staff , staff 5, stay in it for chaos armour:p

anyway, he used it 2 times for sure

i use it like all the time if i feel like taking out zerk eles behind the enemy zerg, and saw many others doing it in duel pvp servers

well, the only thing i think is annoying is that the blast comes out before u r out of stealth, meaning it gives u 3 s revieled, always. so u cant stealth right away if u hit smth w it.. this could need a rework but i am quite fine w everything else

3 bounces means 1x hit and 3 bounce attacks coming up after that. So 4 effects, whereas 2 apply damage and 3 vurnability and 2 3x might. So you would have 6 might, 6 vurnability and 2x damage of mirror blade in a much shorter time, while being able to move and spawning a clone that attributes to your shatter.

BlackDevil.9268:

3 bounces means 1x hit and 3 bounce attacks coming up after that. So 4 effects, whereas 2 apply damage and 3 vurnability and 2 3x might. So you would have 6 might, 6 vurnability and 2x damage of mirror blade in a much shorter time, while being able to move and spawning a clone that attributes to your shatter.

u can trait for 4 bounces, each 2 k, hits enemy 3 times if used right/doesnt get bugged

its quite nice burst dmg