…clones do damage under water but not on land. Not close to any real damage(1-10 @ level 30) but better than nothing on the land. (Solved: Because the underwater weapons are superior to land weapons, generally or, to say—in the earlier levels. The land clones will start doing some damage once you get higher level and get some higher damage weapons.)
…mantras “charge” 2 times faster under water than on land? (So far: They charge 1 second+ faster then on land. No one knows if this is intended or if it’s faulty)
…you get an Elite skill that gives stealth when we already have one that already does that in a utility slot? Is it for the 1 second extra duration? I hope not, it has a more vast cooldown then the utility one—if you trait it, beacuse the elite Mass Invisibility is not an galmour skill, and eats an elite skill slot. 30 points, no thanks it’s a bad trade. (Not worthy of the elite stamp nor the elite slot—compared with the other superior elite skills)
…you not have the ability to wield a pistol in main hand! wink wink (Still no words on this matter ;))
They don’t do damage underwater either. Trident Clones however apply Confusion on each hit, so they can do damage indirectly through that. Staff Clones can do it too through Burning and Bleeding.
They don’t do damage underwater either. Trident Clones however apply Confusion on each hit, so they can do damage indirectly through that. Staff Clones can do it too through Burning and Bleeding.
Do I have to make video prof, or can’t you guys and girls log in a try it your self. No conditions just normal hits does damage. Not much, very litle, but they DO damage.
They don’t do damage underwater either. Trident Clones however apply Confusion on each hit, so they can do damage indirectly through that. Staff Clones can do it too through Burning and Bleeding.
Do I have to make video prof, or can’t you guys and girls log in a try it your self. No conditions just normal hits does damage. Not much, very litle, but they DO damage.
Oh, so by damage you just mean very little damage… well, my land Clones do that too at level 80…
It could be that your underwater weapons are stronger than your land weapons, allowing them to break through the 0 damage threshold.
…clones do damage under water but not on land. Not close to any real damage(1-10 @ level 30) but better than nothing on the land.
…mantras “charge” 2 times faster under water than on land?
…you get an Elite skill that gives stealth when we already have one that already does that in a utility slot? Is it for the 1 second extra duration? I hope not, it has a more vast cooldown then the utility one and eats an elite skill slot. 30 points, no thanks it’s a bad trade.
…you not have the ability to wield a pistol in main hand! wink wink
1.- U’r lvl 30..
2.- underwater monsters =/= ground monsters, Different defense, u have different weapons, etc
3.- I tested it and both do dmg
4.- Clones arent supposed to do significant dmg anyways
Mantras charge 1s faster.. just like other underwater animations are faster too.. not sure if its bug or intended..
Maybe u have 2 stealth skills so u can be stealth for a longer time.. (?)
also.. the normal is a Veil.. the Elite is all around you.. easier to stealth allies.. this skills are meant to be used for groups.. they werent invented thinking of a personal use.. and its a bad trade.. when u’r a bad player.. lol
Given some clones still use an older basic attack from beta (staff clones use a ground-pathing orb and trident clones use the siren’s call that once gave confusion), it’s possible their underwater attacks use old damage formulae too. I’m fairly sure that will all be corrected in time.
Mantras charging faster underwater sounds like a really obscure bug, good job on finding it!
Given some clones still use an older basic attack from beta (staff clones use a ground-pathing orb and trident clones use the siren’s call that once gave confusion), it’s possible their underwater attacks use old damage formulae too. I’m fairly sure that will all be corrected in time.
Mantras charging faster underwater sounds like a really obscure bug, good job on finding it!
Thank you for your replies, except the one above your’s. Has nothing to do with good or bad players. It’s just questions in general. A good player would see that there is no use in heaving both stealth abilities unless your trying something “funny” out.
Rather have the one that also give a light combo field than an aoe for the ppl who can’t understand how to walk through a veil.
Mass invisibility is not worth it when you look at Time Warp but it has its uses, especially since it doesn’t require your allies to run through one exact location (which is sometimes harder to organize that you think
I don’t see much PvE use for mass invisibility, but it’s kind of neat in the pvp modes even if you use veil too. I imagine a potential exploit would be a large mob of mesmers chaining the two together. I wouldn’t want to fight that. Not quite the “8 paragons on a team lol” of GW1 before the huge nerfs, but still seems bad.
Clones eventually start doing that level of damage at about 80. The reason that underwater ones start at 30 is because our underwater weapons are actually our best weapons and the only ones where the damage can be done by the Mesmer and isn’t completely tied up in our phantasms. Also if you are using Trident there is a good chance that you are spamming might and fury onto your clones too.
Shorter Mantra charge time underwater is probably something they forgot to change when they made them longer on ground.
but it has its uses, especially since it doesn’t require your allies to run through one exact location (which is sometimes harder to organize that you think