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Posted by: Bryzy.2719

Bryzy.2719

Since beta I’ve only ever played condition Ranger and all variations thereof. But more recently I decided to level a Mesmer to 80 and I’m freakin loving it. What inspired me to create a Mesmer was seeing one on the enemy team in WvW EB: he was standing far back from the south SM gates and basically sniping down, in seconds, any member of our team who went in to attack him. I thought, “kitten that looks fun to play” so I made one. He was wielding a GS and S/P. Could he have been using some kind of shatter-based build?

I’m at level 75 at the moment just using pvp as a way of practicing zerker mesmer play and leveling up using tomes at the same time. I’ve just been using a basic 6/6/x/x/x in pvp, but thought I’d ask around for advice on particularly lethal burst builds. I’m not having too many issues taking down squishy players, but tankier ones can present more problems due to my lack of experience.

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Posted by: Neptune.2570

Neptune.2570

Hello Bryzy, glad your enjoying Mes

It’s most likely the player your referring too was using a 4/4/0/0/6 standard shatter build, as it has the most reliable and consistant high damage burst, though does take effort to set up and has its weaknesses.
It is incredibly fun too play, so long as your on the ball. It can be a nightmare to play if you have a hint of lagg or aren’t on your game.

There’s some basic combo’s (mirror blade+blink+dodge roll+mind wrack+mind stab) and blurred frenzy combo with sword, but with shatter you really cant rely on standard rotations, as you have to play reactive and unpredictably to survive and get your burst off. I suggest watching top Mesmers streams to pick up on tricks and tips and to learn how to approach different matchups with different classes.

These two guys are the two most well known shatter Mesmers, check out there streams.
http://twitch.tv/hansawesome (supcutie)
http://twitch.tv/thelordhelseth (helseth)

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Posted by: glorius.1235

glorius.1235

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Shatter_Mesmer_Roamer
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Traditional_Shatter

Traits can slightly vary as weapons too based on personal preference, but otherwise these are the core builds shatter mesmers run nowadays.

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Posted by: Bryzy.2719

Bryzy.2719

Thanks for the info. I have to say when I watched this guy play (I didn’t see him encounter more than one player from our team at a time mind you) I did think “christ, he must be seriously quick on that keyboard to offload all that burst at once”. I’ve fought zerker mesmers before on my Ranger, and some I’ve had no problems with while others who are obviously more skilled have been really hard-hitting even against my full-tank regen set up.

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Posted by: CboStL.4965

CboStL.4965

If they were using gs and s/p then I suspect they were using a phantasm build.

2/4/0/5/3 hits like a truck. 2/6/0/6/0 still hits hard, but can provide more utility, and extra pistol range.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

When you say ‘sniping down’ do you actually mean sniping, or do you mean ‘someone approached him and then got deleted at close range’?

Actual sniping points me towards 6/6/w.e mantra nuker. Close range deletion is a shatter (or phantasm I guess) build.

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Posted by: Bryzy.2719

Bryzy.2719

When you say ‘sniping down’ do you actually mean sniping, or do you mean ‘someone approached him and then got deleted at close range’?

Actual sniping points me towards 6/6/w.e mantra nuker. Close range deletion is a shatter (or phantasm I guess) build.

Yeah guess i just should have said bursting down since he started at long-range but pretty sure he also used his melee sword skills too. Each time it happened incredibly quick though so never really took notice of the order he did things in.

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Posted by: Jurica.1742

Jurica.1742

If you want a good shatter build, there are guides in my signature (video one is frozen until my cold passes because it’s making my commentaries painful to watch), far range sniping can be done with shatter but the people you’re ‘sniping’ have to be really bad.
Mantra can snipe from afar but it’s not really a good build to run in any other situations in my opinion.

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Posted by: trooper.2650

trooper.2650

When you say ‘sniping down’ do you actually mean sniping, or do you mean ‘someone approached him and then got deleted at close range’?

Actual sniping points me towards 6/6/w.e mantra nuker. Close range deletion is a shatter (or phantasm I guess) build.

This was my first thought too.
Without necessarily using empowering mantras, since it’s not pve and more useful/user friendly utilities can be chosen for a pvp environment.

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Posted by: fluxit.8247

fluxit.8247

I think we might be dealing with a 6/6/?/?/? build if they’re using a pistol and they have good nuking ability.

I run this lockdown-style dueling build in wvw:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR8al0npGtNqxMNcrNipxcqqIdANMQpHZ8FA-TFCBABH/AAeZ/hKV/5MlgYp8jgjAAAXEg80NQKgIGaB-w

Most people don’t expect you to hit so hard, especially your interrupts. It’s especially good against rangers and engies.

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Posted by: Happicakes.2054

Happicakes.2054

If you would like more information on shatter builds in addition to the awesome Supercutie and Helseth, I would also recommend checking out Vashury’s excellent shatter tutorials and game play vids on Youtube. At the very least, you will be greatly entertained at how fast a good shatter mes can drop an opponent.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2wU56QoFKbofxiqHHofdQ

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Officer – League of Tyrian Adventurers [LoTA]
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Posted by: Royale.5863

Royale.5863

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR8alknpBtNqxMNcrNipxg60ObOSGwBlMkxB-TVBPwAgU+BQ9Hl7PEU3wLlgAA-w

^^Just a basic guess, no food or sigils on weps yet (though air/fire and energy are usually the go)

This is all just speculation considering he’s using pistol. And a phantasm build even with pistol does not burst down near quick enough like you describe. It has to be a shatter of some sort.

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Posted by: CboStL.4965

CboStL.4965

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR8alknpBtNqxMNcrNipxg60ObOSGwBlMkxB-TVBPwAgU+BQ9Hl7PEU3wLlgAA-w

^^Just a basic guess, no food or sigils on weps yet (though air/fire and energy are usually the go)

This is all just speculation considering he’s using pistol. And a phantasm build even with pistol does not burst down near quick enough like you describe. It has to be a shatter of some sort.

You’d be surprised how fast you can 100-0 someone.
I’ve done so many times with gs/s-p. Obviously certain builds/skill levels have the tools to avoid the 100-0, but it does plenty damage. People really don’t see it coming.

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Posted by: Jurica.1742

Jurica.1742

…At the very least, you will be greatly entertained at how fast a good shatter mes can drop a really bad opponent.

Fixed that.

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Posted by: Happicakes.2054

Happicakes.2054

…At the very least, you will be greatly entertained at how fast a good shatter mes can drop a really bad opponent.

Fixed that.

Hey now, lets be nice : P.

That being said, that is a fair point… (I liked your guide btw; very helpful. Hope you feel better soon.)

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Posted by: Caelus.7139

Caelus.7139

Vash is too good.

GW2 has taught me that being a Mesmer is about..
..being a cynical forecaster.
..being a doom-monger….and being a hopeless jinxer.