Mesmer balance : nerf OK, but improvements ?

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Posted by: Lea.6194

Lea.6194

Am I the one that thinks that a balance should be a nerf of over powerfull skills/traits but also up of weakness.

I read that deceptive evasion and vigor on evasion will be nerf. OK.

But what about some weakness of the mesmer ? For example Speed ? Almost all professions have a passive speed boost, but not the mesmers.

Signet of Inspiration should be modified like that :

Passive: Grants a passive speed boost of 25 %. Grants a random boon every ten (15?) seconds.
Active: Copy all of your boons to nearby allies.

What do you think about that ?

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Posted by: Lishtenbird.2814

Lishtenbird.2814

Yes, please. A Signet of Speed was what I’ve always wanted. It’s so not nice to always be the last one in the dungeon catching all the aggroed mobs. And to have a low swiftness that does NOT stack, AND requires a constant irreplaceable offhand focus.

And no, blink is not much. And no, I do NOT want to ruin a whole 6 slots of runes just for the speed when other classes have it constantly on with regular sigils.

20 level 80s and counting.

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Posted by: LumAnth.5124

LumAnth.5124

Hopefully scepter since I’m afraid my power build for sword makes my Bolt obsolete with all the ignorant nerfs from A-net. I’m already 80% do done with Meteorologicus!

Sorry for the typos….
I’m usually typing on my phone

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Posted by: Blackhat.4016

Blackhat.4016

There might be some buffs coming since they only announced the big changes, not all of them.

The nerfs are questionable but I don’t think they will destroy the Mesmer like some people do. You will still be able to use the same builds and some of them will be weaker.

Giving Mesmers more ooc mobility would be nice (although that’s a big change which would have been announced). Your idea seems to be too strong though. 25% speed boost + a random boon is better than any other speed boost signet in the game.

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Posted by: Stievie.6128

Stievie.6128

There might be some buffs coming since they only announced the big changes, not all of them.

The nerfs are questionable but I don’t think they will destroy the Mesmer like some people do. You will still be able to use the same builds and some of them will be weaker.

Giving Mesmers more ooc mobility would be nice (although that’s a big change which would have been announced). Your idea seems to be too strong though. 25% speed boost + a random boon is better than any other speed boost signet in the game.

you wont spawn any illusions from DE anymore if you shatter from range for example, allready shattered illusions count towards the new DE cap. so yeah shatter mesmer is dead basicly unless we get a big effin buff somewhere else

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Posted by: LumAnth.5124

LumAnth.5124

There might be some buffs coming since they only announced the big changes, not all of them.

The nerfs are questionable but I don’t think they will destroy the Mesmer like some people do. You will still be able to use the same builds and some of them will be weaker.

Giving Mesmers more ooc mobility would be nice (although that’s a big change which would have been announced). Your idea seems to be too strong though. 25% speed boost + a random boon is better than any other speed boost signet in the game.

you wont spawn any illusions from DE anymore if you shatter from range for example, allready shattered illusions count towards the new DE cap. so yeah shatter mesmer is dead basicly unless we get a big effin buff somewhere else

Proof? I was hoping this wouldn’t happen….

Good bye Bolt!

Sorry for the typos….
I’m usually typing on my phone

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Posted by: Stievie.6128

Stievie.6128

There might be some buffs coming since they only announced the big changes, not all of them.

The nerfs are questionable but I don’t think they will destroy the Mesmer like some people do. You will still be able to use the same builds and some of them will be weaker.

Giving Mesmers more ooc mobility would be nice (although that’s a big change which would have been announced). Your idea seems to be too strong though. 25% speed boost + a random boon is better than any other speed boost signet in the game.

you wont spawn any illusions from DE anymore if you shatter from range for example, allready shattered illusions count towards the new DE cap. so yeah shatter mesmer is dead basicly unless we get a big effin buff somewhere else

Proof? I was hoping this wouldn’t happen….

Good bye Bolt!

i got it from an insider, but out of respect i wont reveal his name.
the source is legit , I can say that much.

And this will be the sad truth

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Posted by: aaron.7850

aaron.7850

get rune of the centaur, cast mantra heal every 10 seconds, enjoy perma swiftness

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Posted by: Sothe.5639

Sothe.5639

Yup, let’s take a couple of more-or-less useless rune (though Traveler and Centaur are not bad, stats they give aren’t great either and take 6 slots just for speed) so we can do what others naturaly do. Nothing wrong, yup.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

There might be some buffs coming since they only announced the big changes, not all of them.

The nerfs are questionable but I don’t think they will destroy the Mesmer like some people do. You will still be able to use the same builds and some of them will be weaker.

Giving Mesmers more ooc mobility would be nice (although that’s a big change which would have been announced). Your idea seems to be too strong though. 25% speed boost + a random boon is better than any other speed boost signet in the game.

you wont spawn any illusions from DE anymore if you shatter from range for example, allready shattered illusions count towards the new DE cap. so yeah shatter mesmer is dead basicly unless we get a big effin buff somewhere else

Proof? I was hoping this wouldn’t happen….

Good bye Bolt!

i got it from an insider, but out of respect i wont reveal his name.
the source is legit , I can say that much.

And this will be the sad truth

Seriously? :o

Kitten, I hoped that was not the case!

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

get rune of the centaur, cast mantra heal every 10 seconds, enjoy perma swiftness

yeahs o i can not get a decent rune, because im force to use a rune so i can keep upt with my guild? those runes are only there for the stupid swiftness. i could get 100 more power or 100 more toughness or 100 more condi, or something that protects me from cc like melandru, but no i have to use a stupid mantra and a stupid rune.
id rather be slow and survive in a large fight than being forced to use a rune set

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Posted by: Cribbage.2056

Cribbage.2056

Some classes get swiftness or speed naturally but are not so great on damage, so have to try to squeeze some extra out of runes.

Mesmer gets high damage naturally and has to squeeze some swiftness out of runes. Where is the imbalance?

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

Some classes get swiftness or speed naturally but are not so great on damage, so have to try to squeeze some extra out of runes.

Mesmer gets high damage naturally and has to squeeze some swiftness out of runes. Where is the imbalance?

high dmg naturally? wat? u are aware that u gotta spec like everyone else, plus our traitlines are a complete mess right? u get a utility. any other class gets the same amount of power or condi while being able to have swiftness. we are either bound to focus or a rune

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Posted by: Cribbage.2056

Cribbage.2056

Everyone has to spec traits, that’s how it works. My point was that you can spec yours to do some pretty awesome damage whilst still having a chance to survive (e.g. you clones and phantasms will still be DPSing when you are taking some defensive action).

You have a trade off of damage vs survivability, but it is not as harsh as that on many classes. Those classes may have to take more defensive traits, then increase their DPS with runes.

I know this is the mesmer forum, so I am concious of not wanting to troll, but really the mesmer has been one of the few classes that has been at the top since launch. I agree that having parity on movement speed should be somewhere in the future, but I’d very much like to see balance of actual performance put before things like that.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

Everyone has to spec traits, that’s how it works. My point was that you can spec yours to do some pretty awesome damage whilst still having a chance to survive (e.g. you clones and phantasms will still be DPSing when you are taking some defensive action).

You have a trade off of damage vs survivability, but it is not as harsh as that on many classes. Those classes may have to take more defensive traits, then increase their DPS with runes.

I know this is the mesmer forum, so I am concious of not wanting to troll, but really the mesmer has been one of the few classes that has been at the top since launch. I agree that having parity on movement speed should be somewhere in the future, but I’d very much like to see balance of actual performance put before things like that.

in 1v1 maybe, but in wvw since glamour and other countless nerfs we are on the bottom of the bottom! and all classes can spec into power and get decend defenses and survival. power necro is one of the weaker ones though but thats also because anet never really gave them defensive traits. ele gets earthshield has great heals and condi cleanses in water while doing massive meteorshower dmg. war has it all including cc spam and stability. guardian is one of the classes that does have to choose between defense and offense but still has plenty of blocks if offensive. engi has all of it too, thief has grea escapes. ranger i cant tell as i havent played the class

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