Guild Wars 2

Hello for a budget of about 25 to 30 gold (ie no perplexity runes). I need to build a Mesmer for small group roaming condi spec, and also for large groups (15+) zerg busting.

So far im debating between pu shatter and regular shatter, 4,4,0,06 or 4, 4, 0,2,4

or 4,4,6

What way do you guys recommend?
And what skills/elite, and gear way of stating out.

So, looking for two entirely separate builds with different abilities and gear.

About that budget… Do you have alternative currencies like karma, laurels, and WvW tokens? Some armor sets and trinkets are very easy on the virtual wallet if you use these alternative methods to attain them. See equipment acquisition by stats on the wiki

(Only real downside of karma or WvW token armor is that you can’t salvage it. So it’s kind of a bad choice if you want to put super pricey runes in it.)

I like the dungeon token route of buying armor. Sure, it takes up more time and effort, but you get gold for getting the armor stats you want as opposed to paying gold.

Yes , tons of karma, and tons of laurels and a lot of wvwvw tokens. Just gold that I am limited on.
So good small group condi build for roaming.

and good large group build for zerg busting organized guild runs.

The downside of using karma armor is the inability to salvage them to get the runes back, if you went with expensive runes and wanted to swap stats.

msalakka.4653:

The downside of using dungeon armor is the inability to salvage them to get the runes back, if you went with expensive runes and wanted to swap stats.

You mean to say the downside of using WvW armor. Dungeon armor is salvageable, WvW armor is not.

Fay.2357:

msalakka.4653:

The downside of using dungeon armor is the inability to salvage them to get the runes back, if you went with expensive runes and wanted to swap stats.

You mean to say the downside of using WvW armor. Dungeon armor is salvageable, WvW armor is not.

Ahh yes, I meant armor purchased with karma, from temples.

I made a condi-hybrid build for zergs/havoc teams a while ago using mantra-balthazar runes. It also has stability for your party as well as pbAoe IP shatter. It’s a bit unconventional but I felt that the combination of 3-charge stability mantra as well as IP-distortion gave me lots of survivability (if you stick close to your tag you tend to take less damage than spread out, although you probably already realize this by now.)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Shatter-Hybrid-WvW-Zerg-Build-YoloBomber/first#post4137670

I’ve recorded a bit more footage of the build since my first post; PM me if you’re interested in viewing it.

Also, Balthazar runes are very cheap, and I believe rabid armor is among the cheapest for crafted armor you can find on the TP.