Guild Wars 2

first off really ….. mantra’s are a joke … charge for 3 1/2 secs .. to do .. what 890 a click …yay

remove condition 2 .. just 2 … after a 3 1/2 charge

daze 1 sec which no one even notice it was on them

and lets not forget 2 sec 2 charges .. of stability ……

by the way these mantras …. were nerfed can u believe it .
daze used to be 2 charges 2 secs

no real maintained speed .. we have to wear jewels to just keep up with other classes

speed

signet 10% boons …. here is the best part … active spread boons around …. since when has a mesmer had a huge stack of boons he could spread around …

guard clicks a button and it rains boons out his a!@ for all

nerf portal no its range is 1200 it feels like now …. nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf

mean while they fixed 20% reduce skill time on phan .. thank u .. for nothing
cause there att speed is 5 sec 1sec diff if he wasn’t dead before that sec att

i can tell u right now .. are builds are super super narrow
make clones hop hop hop and hope u die

we are suppose to confuse and lock down among other things ..hah

i hope i get that random buff so i can run faster …. to catch the thief that was about to die went stealth and ported across the map … come on swiffness buff come on baby pop … darn he’s gone

little did the players of this game know .. we were the last class to be made with promises of being completed … u can’t begin to believe how many of are traits are broken and noted by players

if i lie plz ask the mantra build mesmer u just fought … to tell me so

im done … i’ll start a thief or something that feels like polished class

i want to know when i select a trait it is going to truly work the way it is .. and no more … this trait will make u faster blah blah blah per clone .. and yet … i dont seem faster .. u dont even know how many traits we skip just to pick the traits we can bare to stomach.. .. very limited info on traits makes mesmer wonder what it is suppose to do duh

i have played other classes and there are so many great traits … i just cant put them all in my bar .. i want them all … u will never ever get that looking at mesmer traits ever ever ever …. ask any mesmer

later

Do you feel better getting that off your chest?

Trolls gotta troll.

Close thread.

can’t help the truth

Funny thing is out of all the busted traits and abilities you brought up, when played well, a Mesmer will kill pretty much everything. That’s in our “broken state”.
Nuff said. Close thread.

We do need some bug fixes such as certain abilities failing when used on a gradual incline or getting stealth broken by a bouncing attack, but things are not nearly as grim as you would have us believe.

Regardless of our bugs, we are quite strong. Maybe the auto-attack of the scepter and the torch’s phantasm could stand a buff, but even those weapons can be used well in certain builds.

I think that we could have a very deep and meaningful discussion about how to improve the mesmer’s weaker aspects on the mesmer forum without making the class overpowered, but I’m afraid your post seems too much like a rant with little evidence to support its claims.

Lets see….about 30% of that post was factually wrong. About 30% of that post was massively questionable opinions, and the remaining 50% was unintelligable garble.

Mesmers have a very low number of broken traits compared to a lot of other classes. We have 1 weapon that is pretty much completely lackluster, but this is made up for by our overpowered other weapons.

Mesmers are the most overpowered class in the game. We have an overpowered burst build capable of massive burst damage combined with extremely high survivability. We have an overpowered tank build capable of 100% uptime on several highly important boons that make it nearly impossible to kill, and impossible to attack without killing yourself. We have an overpowered zerg fighting build that bypasses the 5 target aoe limit and melts massive numbers of people with a few simple aoe drops. We have overpowered phantasm builds that don’t even have to attack, but can simply run around in circles while people try to decide whether to kill the phantasms, or try to chase you.

Nearly every single well made build a mesmer can make will do nearly everything better than nearly every other class. Mesmers are hilariously overpowered for anyone that knows how to use them, and that just makes whine threads like this that much funnier.

I run a glass phantasm mantra build and the additional dps I get from mantras as well as the use of dispelling two conditions of any stack each time I click (for 3 clicks) is amazing. My single target dps compounded by my phantasms is not a crutch by any standard (With the exception of Zerker being bugged currently)

I have no problem in WvW or PvE using this same build as I hit high numbers consistently. The mantra you mentioned that did like “890” does 2300 for me easily and I can use that three times as well, but it would reduce the damage buff if I used it.

If you don’t like the mantra build then don’t use it, as I don’t see any that are currently broken and the condition removal is hugely useful in both PvP and PvE of all sorts

Also, how are these thieves evading you? Berserker phant cripples are devastating to thief and magic bullet stuns them quite heavily. The fights over at this point. You can even throw out the iduelist if you want before the cool-down on zerker phantasm is even done. Then switch back and throw another one out for the lulz.

wow … rly didnt noticed that mesmers are so weak … my thoughs was exactly opposing ( and i have also 80 thief and dd ele ) … still i enjoy my mesmer way the most … not only we can have great survability dmg decent support but we can have it all in one build … srsly 2 crazy
PS: not calling for nerf .. just fix illusionary elasticity on staff clones and we are fine 3:)

cheers Xixsa

Pyroatheist.9031:

Lets see….about 30% of that post was factually wrong. About 30% of that post was massively questionable opinions, and the remaining 50% was unintelligable garble.

Mesmers have a very low number of broken traits compared to a lot of other classes. We have 1 weapon that is pretty much completely lackluster, but this is made up for by our overpowered other weapons.

Mesmers are the most overpowered class in the game. We have an overpowered burst build capable of massive burst damage combined with extremely high survivability. We have an overpowered tank build capable of 100% uptime on several highly important boons that make it nearly impossible to kill, and impossible to attack without killing yourself. We have an overpowered zerg fighting build that bypasses the 5 target aoe limit and melts massive numbers of people with a few simple aoe drops. We have overpowered phantasm builds that don’t even have to attack, but can simply run around in circles while people try to decide whether to kill the phantasms, or try to chase you.

Nearly every single well made build a mesmer can make will do nearly everything better than nearly every other class. Mesmers are hilariously overpowered for anyone that knows how to use them, and that just makes whine threads like this that much funnier.

I didnt know that posts had 110% content

But, mesmers are not overpowered. I’ve been playing mesmer since day 1, and I’ve gotten pretty good with it, not many players can kill me in spvp or wvw, but that is not because I am playing a mesmer, I just outplay them. Lets take thief vs me ( mesmer ) as an example. Most thieves use the same old backstab build with basilisk. I just pop out my clones and F1 them to death most of the time, but, I’ve also seen many thieves with the same build, but are just better players than I am and they know when to attack and when not to attack and then it is over for me. Its not the class that is overpowered, it is the player.

Funny. I actually find mesmer the best class if you want one that is good in pve and pvp at the same time.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Lets see….about 30% of that post was factually wrong. About 30% of that post was massively questionable opinions, and the remaining 50% was unintelligable garble.

Don’t forget the bad grammar and misspelled words

I have to totally agree…but with Pyroatheist.

Just check out his videos or those of some of the other mesmers around like Osicat and you can see that when you build and play right you can be incredibly strong.

Personally I think we are well balanced…and all classes could use some bug fixes.

I haven’t really played with the mantra that much. I’ve recently just switched my mesmer from an alt to a main as I love playing him.

You have so many different builds available it’s ridiculous. I have an 80 ranger, thief, and ele. Ranger is broken, thief gets bland sometimes, and ele is the same combo almost all the time.

I feel like every single weapon that the mesmer can use brings a certain utility, so you really can have all weapons and change them up on the scenario.

You complain about cast time for the mantra, but that’s your fault. You really need to pop those before you get into combat, or when you’re in a safe spot, say using LOS or positioning.

Edit: I completely forget to mention my favorite part! You bringing up the thief. Man these are ridiculous easy to kill on mesmers. I love nothing more than seeing an enemy shadow refugee and dropping temporal curtain right outside, pulling the team out, immobilizing them with the leap and going to town on them lol. They almost always act like little kittens just born “What? What happenend? Where am I? what’s going on?”