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Posted by: DoomKnightMax.6592

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I’ve been playing a shatter Mesmer even since I hit level 80. I never really liked playing PU, phantasm or even shatter hybrids. I have always been running the basic Gs Sword Torch shatter. Recently I have decided to change my build around or try something new.
The build that I have come by is a might stacking build. You basically gain might from weapon swapping, interrupting and shattering. It is a variation of Osicat’s Shatter Cat Heavy 3.0.

The Gear:
The Gear has a mix of Knights, and Valkyrie with one Berserker item. The reason for this is to survive condition damage with vitality, considering you will not be running any condition removal skills. The runes are Hoelbrak, for more longer might duration.

Weapons:
Sword for the shatter “hooks”
Focus because of its ability to interrupt. I think a better option would be a pistol because of the more reliable phantasm.
The staff also has an interrupt and gives more mobility and defense than a greatsword.
Sigils of Battle on weapon swap and sigil of energy for more dodges. Its always better to dodge conditions than take em.

Accessories:
I literally have no idea why I chose them. Its just what I felt looks best. I didn’t want to drop too far from 1600 toughness and wanted to keep the power above 1900. I think the crit damage suffers the most at a low 40%.

The Traits:
Domination 0
Dueling 4 (Blade Training IV, Deceptive Evasion X)
Chaos 4 (Illusionary Defense IV, Bountiful Interruption VIII)
Inspiration 0
Illusions (Compounding Power III, Illusionary Elasticity VII, Illusionary Persona XI)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhMQNAsdWlknpWtlpxRNcrNCvxYyBKA15k0RlMgbB-TFzHwAhUNQoSKnKB7pEpjaADVKM4JAsUZgD9BAOFAi2f4jKOAA-w

I would like to know if this build is viable, and if I should start perusing the expensive runes, and ascended trinkets.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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Not really sure why you’d pick the focus for that. Using the curtain as interrupt is unreliable at best and the warden is borked. I’d take an offhand sword in such a build.

If this is intended for roaming, I’d replace 2 points in illusions with 2 in chaos and go for a sword/torch PU hybrid. That’s what I currently use to roam, taking cleansing mantra for condition removal instead having traited torch (suffer somewhat from increased torch cooldowns, but gains celerity bonus to other cooldowns) .

If you dont like PU, phantasm or shatter I have a hard time imagining a reason why you even play the Mesmer, lol. Because that’s kind of everything the Mesmer has :/
You can call your build fancy names but it wont change the fact its going to be a variant of one of these three. Well, you got glamour as well but that’s really just a phantasm build with a bit more support and possibly condition damage. Full mantra Mesmer is not viable and often end up a phantasm/glamour hybrid anyway (cant really play mantra and shatter at the same time, poor synergy)

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Posted by: DoomKnightMax.6592

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I completely understand what your looking at, and Im pretty use I never said I didn’t like shatter. I said I didn’t like hybrid shatter builds. I feel like I didn’t explain the build well enough on my part. I think this video will explain the build better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2huaq3JMW4c

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

I completely understand what your looking at, and Im pretty use I never said I didn’t like shatter. I said I didn’t like hybrid shatter builds. I feel like I didn’t explain the build well enough on my part. I think this video will explain the build better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2huaq3JMW4c

… but you got a shatter hybrid in the OP?

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Posted by: DoomKnightMax.6592

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Lets forget about what I said, and get to the point about the build. Will it work well, yes or no?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Lets forget about what I said, and get to the point about the build. Will it work well, yes or no?

No. You can’t stack might effectively.

Interrupts can work sometimes, and you’ll be able to get some decent burst now and then, but the majority of the time and particularly against certain classes you’ll have nothing from interrupts.

Weapon swapping only gets you 6-9 stacks, and then shattered strength only will get you about 3 permanently. It’s just not enough to make it work effectively.

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Posted by: DoomKnightMax.6592

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Okay thanks for the feed back, I guess this build was only good back then.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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You can get good with interrupts but the right setup is vital. For one boon stripping in your build is vital to remove stability. 4 In Domination, Shattered Concentration is a solid choice. Failing that using arcane thievery is good right before a burst. Personally I like Halting Strike to build in to great interrupting synergy. Lastly I go with Blade Training and OH sword. The riposte of sword 4 is great damage and produces a clone to build into a diversion shatter. Otherwise you can prep the channel (just like temporal curtain) and fire it when you’re ready. I’ll throw up a vid.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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I don’t usualy run MoD, I don’t particularly like it on my bar but it’ll give you two solid, insta dazes before needing to be recharged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwvNs2_1aG4&feature=youtu.be

I run 4, 6, 4, 0, 0 and this vid I put up recently as part of a build thread. It uses the same interrupt setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zUSHO0HQo

In GvG’s is where I primarily like to run shatter boon removal + daze interrupts as part of a pick team.

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Posted by: DoomKnightMax.6592

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Thanks Ross, 4/6/4/0/0 looks like a way better interrupt build that what I brought up. Its alot more “solid”. Dumb question about it though. Is it possible to replace the focus with a pistol? The focus illusion is way too unreliable, and the pistol phantasm does “non” static dps. If I were to make this change I would lose the reflect from the iWarden so would recommend I change the healing skill to Mirror?

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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Keep ether fest for your heal. It’s by far our strongest. Don’t worry about ranged pressure, we’ve plenty of ways to deal with a ranged opponent without reflects on hand. Yes you can swap focus for pistol. You lose swiftness, mobility, aoe pull, and the ability to pull off ledges etc but you’ll get your pistol interrupt chance. You can even trait pistol in the dueling line if that suits you. If you’re really game you can swap DE with it.