Guild Wars 2

Who uses mimic nowadays just wondering.I find it not useful after changes which used to be one of my fav. skill.

Notice how engies run duel channeled blocks (shield + gear shield on kit), and how they’re considered amazing atm?

Yeah of course old mimic was amazing, would be incredible in this ranger pew pew meta, and that its a toy Mesmers no longer get because [enter slanderous comments regarding Anet devs here].

The discussion is over for Mimic. The skills so worthless on the util bar it’s not worth considering, and any hope of a revision is about as likely as glamors being fixed. Anet just doesn’t give a kitten.

Ross Biddle.2367:

[enter slanderous comments regarding Anet devs here]

Slander implies that the comments are false.

On topic, mimic is worthless right now. The only situation I’ve used it is to copy the 25 might off of the jellyfish in the underwater fractal. Literally, that’s it. The single use for it in the entire game is that boss.

Fay.2357:

Ross Biddle.2367:

[enter slanderous comments regarding Anet devs here]

Slander implies that the comments are false.

On topic, mimic is worthless right now. The only situation I’ve used it is to copy the 25 might off of the jellyfish in the underwater fractal. Literally, that’s it. The single use for it in the entire game is that boss.

Pre nerf, id use arcane thievery for the same thing. Still can. Which is even better since it’s also denial.

Mimic worst util change ever. Kanya West says so.

sometimes i put it on my bar if i want to pretend i only have 2 utility skills…

but in honesty i’ve tried to make it work over and over in sPvP and vs Engies or boon guards its not bad…

it’s just not good either

i have all the same boons and get all the benefits but i don’t have their skills to re-spam them and i still dont gain the blocks and sustain they have ontop of them… they also still have all the boons..

While i rarely used the old mimic i’d take its weird and semi useless functionality over whomever-was-fired-after-this-went-live’s job…

at least i hope someone was fired

…..

or at least demoted..

Fay.2357:

On topic, mimic is worthless right now. The only situation I’ve used it is to copy the 25 might off of the jellyfish in the underwater fractal. Literally, that’s it. The single use for it in the entire game is that boss.

Ofc, one could just use Arcane Thievery to also remove the stacks from the boss. Or can you copy and then steal to get twice the duration. Because yes in that case I found my sole use for the skill.

New Mimic is really, really, really rubbish. I have no idea who thought that with having Arcane Thievery, we’d also need something like Mimic. If it copied the entire state, not just the boons, that’d be interesting (boons, conditions, food/utility effects, current health percentage, CC state, everything, can be used as a stunbreaker when copying from someone not CCed, lasts 10-15 seconds).

25 stacks might can’t be stolen twice, it will simply overwrite the current duration, not add it. Thievery > Mimic. Old Mimic was unique and golden in some situation. This new stuff is just useless cheap crap.

Pre-nerf, I used it every now and then, especially in the Uncategorized fractal.

Haven’t used it used it ever since the update. There’s even really little point in using Arcane Thievery on Rabsovich now, let alone Mimic.

Edit: oh wait, I do have it on my skillbar! The underwater one, where I put 3 useless skills so that I don’t trigger the shared cooldown bug.

The old mimic was so useful against Lupicus. The new mimic I will never use.

New Mimic is awful compared to it’s old functionality. Unfortunately Anet will never revert it because, well, they don’t do that.

Also, there would be a lot of dead Rangers now. Too many for Anet to account for.

We have a Mimic skill?
Seriously, ANet really screwed the pooch on this one. I frigging wish the coder in question had have went with: “Duplicate the last ‘ability’ used by (target).”
Would’ve been “different,” and at least functional.

So, I wonder what will happen because Mimic did have a bad change. Will the moderators delete this thread because it threatens the pride of those who thought up the change? Or will they heed to the player community? Or perhaps this very post is like a pole to them which is banned according to terms and conditions.

Zelulose.8695:

So, I wonder what will happen because Mimic did have a bad change. Will the moderators delete this thread because it threatens the pride of those who thought up the change? Or will they heed to the player community? Or perhaps this very post is like a pole to them which is banned according to terms and conditions.

If the mods deleted threads every time mesmers complained/pointed out the unbelievable poor choices taken in the direction of this game, there would be no mesmer forums left. That being said, the devs don’t heed the community, they don’t listen to anyone, both for better and for worse. They don’t nerf based on random people complaining, and they don’t make changes based on what the community tells them is sensible and right. It’s a double-edged sword.

Advent.6193:

We have a Mimic skill?
Seriously, ANet really screwed the pooch on this one. I frigging wish the coder in question had have went with: “Duplicate the last ‘ability’ used by (target).”
Would’ve been “different,” and at least functional.

Don’t blame the coder, he is just doing is job. You want to blame the designer.

Mimic needs to be reverted.

Swish.2463:

sometimes i put it on my bar if i want to pretend i only have 2 utility skills…

but in honesty i’ve tried to make it work over and over in sPvP and vs Engies or boon guards its not bad…

it’s just not good either

i have all the same boons and get all the benefits but i don’t have their skills to re-spam them and i still dont gain the blocks and sustain they have ontop of them… they also still have all the boons..

I tried pretty much on pvp nowadays mimic is totally medicore I do not miss if I choose another skill instead of it but old mimic was indispensable! Total drawback.For a new worthless mimic Anet seems wasted pretty much human intelligence here

Old mimic was cool. The only way to make this mimic cool is if it was a 20 cd stunbreak with the instant cast copying the boons and their durations of your target

I think I used it a few times in duels, to copy 25 stacks of might from someone, and that was it. I thought it was great for boon copying when it first came out, but I…don’t recall ever using it since.

I miss the old mimic too…that was fun. Maybe the devs thought it was a little too OP…

Nah, it just wasn’t used enough. Maybe if they made it create a phantasm that copied all your spell actions and movement… it would be like a clone but does everything you do without actually casting a spell itself.

Arikyali.5804:

I think I used it a few times in duels, to copy 25 stacks of might from someone, and that was it. I thought it was great for boon copying when it first came out, but I…don’t recall ever using it since.

I miss the old mimic too…that was fun. Maybe the devs thought it was a little too OP…

They just didn’t want to leave the possibility of pew pew hardcounter builds due to making the ranger LB change at the same time, and being uncreative just looked at arcane thievery and though “let’s just make it copy boons only instead of stealing them”…

Words cannot describe my disgust for the mimic change – would have been better if they simply deleted the skill from the utility bar.

Mimic? Huh, they should call it gimmick! Amirite?

To be honest, if the new Mimic is on 15s CD and instant cast, then it wouldn’t be too bad. But still, the new function is so lackluster comparing to Arcane Thievery.

Clownmug.8357:

Mimic? Huh, they should call it gimmick! Amirite?

lol, I support this.

We told them.
We told them when they aired the Skill Bar preview, we told them when the actual patch notes were released, we told them before and after the patch.

They took a very situational skill and turned it into a worthless skill. That is in no way an improvement. I remember many suggestions of what this skill could become, many good and many bad ones. We have Arcane Thievery, we don’t need this nonsense.

You know, what scares me the most is that a change like the one on Mimic kinda indicates how disconnected they are from their game when it comes to stuff like this.
I guess most Mesmer players could already see how bad the change was when they announced it. We were arguing back then if the change was IN ADDITION to what the skill already did, or that it would come with a major cooldown decrease. Double nope.

Giving feedback for a change like this is like spinning a wheel of fortune, you can just hope that out of the many threads in these forums, anet would recognize the Mimic concerns. They did not. And I truly believe that they’re done with the skill now, thinking it is “fixed”.

That’s why I am personally looking forward to the “Forum Specialist Program”. It will make it easier to highlight real concerns that most users in a subforum agree with.
This is of course not a game/class breaking concern, but it’s definately an important issue. Especially since it was introduced as an overhaul to make the skill useful.

I apologize in advance for speaking in plural.
If someone does not agree and likes the new Mimic, that is fine.

What they should do is stop their ban on poles in the terms and policies. It is just another way for them to do whatever they want despite the players. I once made a thread that asked players to decide and it was removed as a pole thread.

@Zeluose
That will never happen. We are talking about the same authorities who got rid of the WvW Matchup sub-section, citing disruptive behaviors. Although, thinking that a forum sector based around a competitive section of a MMO would ever qualify as “nice” is beyond me …
(Arguably, the removal of the Profession Balance sub-forum might have been done as a similar move.)
With this in mind, “poll” threads are never going to be given an “OK.”

Arikyali.5804:

I think I used it a few times in duels, to copy 25 stacks of might from someone, and that was it. I thought it was great for boon copying when it first came out, but I…don’t recall ever using it since.

I miss the old mimic too…that was fun. Maybe the devs thought it was a little too OP…

And then tell me how this skill did that even as good as arcane thievery would have done? that would not only have copied the 25might to you, but also removing them from your target (so instead of equalizing the dmg between you, you8 would make your dmg vastly superior)