Guild Wars 2

The amount of damage Mind Wrack deals per clone varies depending on the amount of clones used, but it’s not immediately obvious what happens when the player is using Illusionary Persona. Does he count as a clone, or just an additional tick of damage? If the player does indeed count as a clone, what happens when we have 3 clones + the player?

What about the weapon strength? From what I’ve understood, anything that isn’t a weapon skill, usually uses an “inherent” weapons strength that has a mean value of 952.5, and the highest possible value somewhere around 1000, but for Mind Wrack the wiki mentions the number 604. What weapon strength value should I be using if I wanted to find the highest possible Mind Wrack hit?

TL;DR version:
- How does Illusionary Persona interact with Mind Wrack?
- What is the highest possible weapon strength value Mind Wrack can get?

With IP you count as an additional illusion but only regarding all traits and effects which occur with shatters (F1-F4). You don’t get the 3% bonuses of traits like “deal 3% additional damage for each active illusion you have”. Which means instead of a three shatter mind wrack you now have a four shatter mind wrack.

“If” the wiki is right, the general damage of mind wrack with IP is higher than without. With zero illusions and IP mind wrack would deal the same amount as one illusion which is 135 damage. With one active illusion so with IP now two the damage would be 270 (~135 per illusion), whereas a two illusion mind wrack without IP would only deal 206 (~103 per illusion). The complete damage list can be seen here.
So you see the damage per illusion is lower the more illusions you have.

Mind wrack is a weapon attack, but the tooltip only shows the damage for a weapon strength of 604. If only the tooltip is wrong, you should shatter with a two-handed weapon which has a mean strength of 1047,5 (calculated for exotic weapon). If you shatter with a one-handed weapon, your shatter damage will drop to a mean of 952,5. That would be a loss of ~9%. So the highest possible weapon strength value would be 1150 (mean 1100) with an ascended two-handed weapon.

Also regarding the skill coefficient of mind wrack the coefficient doesn’t change for 3 and 4 illusions. Regarding what Azo calculated you should always trait IP if you go for a shatter build, because the damage per illusion doesn’t drop from 3 to 4 illusions.

So to get the maximum out of mind wrack you should trait IP and always shatter when you’re near the enemy to get the “bonus damage” for the fourth illusion.

yski.7642:

- How does Illusionary Persona interact with Mind Wrack?

The way IP works is that it takes the current damage that clones do with a shatter, and adds another instance of that damage. This has the result of massively boosting shatter damage. A 1 clone IP shatter is almost as high as a 3 clone non-IP shatter due to this interaction.

yski.7642:

- What is the highest possible weapon strength value Mind Wrack can get?

Mind wrack uses the mainhand weapon, so the highest weapon strength would be using a 2-hander.

Thanks, that solves it! <3