Guild Wars 2

Gj on fixing the skill 5 run skill distance on people who have been moa’d anet. However this skill still needs a few changes, for example 180 rechange time is too long imo. Currently also it can be dodged and casted even tho the target is out of range which means it doesnt cast on target and the caster has to wait 180sec for it to recharge again. It needs a fix like ‘mirrow images’ does where it wont active unless a target is selected and is in range. Also currently theifs who trait for stealth on falling damage can use this trait stealth even as a moa and on top of that if the theif has stealth available from their steal skill pre moa morphed they can still use that skill to stealth. It only lasts 10 seconds and they could get upto 6 seconds of stealth still as moa with their traits and steal.

These things need to be changed no stealth traits should work while the theif is in Moa form, and F1 (steal) should not be available to them also. That or reduce the moa morph recharge time from 180sec to 90sec pls.

Moa morph seems fine dude, it lasts 10 seconds, it counters just about every other elite in the game, and it completely destroys any build that relies on summons.

Hahahahaha

I another post everybody is crying about moa, and you want to make the most op skill of the game.

Just funny how stupid can be people from both sides…

Durzlla.6295:

Moa morph seems fine dude, it lasts 10 seconds, it counters just about every other elite in the game, and it completely destroys any build that relies on summons.

Leave moa as it is instead of fixing moa fix mm which gets CD on all their minions every time they are moad.

Zelulose.8695:

Durzlla.6295:

Moa morph seems fine dude, it lasts 10 seconds, it counters just about every other elite in the game, and it completely destroys any build that relies on summons.

Leave moa as it is instead of fixing moa fix mm which gets CD on all their minions every time they are moad.

Rangers lose all their spirits, warriors their banners, guardians their spirits, it counters thieves guild (their summons die), destroys all illusions, turrets etc, MM isn’t the only prof that gets boned by the skill and as such I don’t think it should be altered.

Delete it from the game.

Now if only it stopped bosses and champions from doing their “elites”. I would toss it on The Shatterer just for the luls!

Crossplay.2067:

Now if only it stopped bosses and champions from doing their “elites”. I would toss it on The Shatterer just for the luls!

Lol you can use it on champions and bosses, idk about things as big as the Shatterer though…

Durzlla.6295:

Crossplay.2067:

Now if only it stopped bosses and champions from doing their “elites”. I would toss it on The Shatterer just for the luls!

Lol you can use it on champions and bosses, idk about things as big as the Shatterer though…

It also last like 3sec, who wants to ‘waste’ their elite like that

Seriously getting bored of the state of Moa …
First is you become useless and it can be cast while moving.
Then it’s nerfed to oblivion : target can escape very far with #5 and it can no longer be cast while moving.
Then it’s buffed again : a little nerf to #5 moa and can now be cast while moving.
Now they plan to nerf it again ??
Sounds like a table tennis match to me …
In that case, might be better just to remove it out of the game and create a brand new skill.

Just remove moa from the game and give us something more useful instead, please.

Durzlla.6295:

Zelulose.8695:

Durzlla.6295:

Moa morph seems fine dude, it lasts 10 seconds, it counters just about every other elite in the game, and it completely destroys any build that relies on summons.

Leave moa as it is instead of fixing moa fix mm which gets CD on all their minions every time they are moad.

Rangers lose all their spirits, warriors their banners, guardians their spirits, it counters thieves guild (their summons die), destroys all illusions, turrets etc, MM isn’t the only prof that gets boned by the skill and as such I don’t think it should be altered.

It doesn’t work on thieves guild. This question came up recently, so I tested it.

It’s a 10 second, almost guaranteed kill skill (if used properly.) I don’t see what the issue is here.

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

It’s a 10 second, almost guaranteed kill skill (if used properly.) I don’t see what the issue is here.

It’s too strong in sPvP, it’s balanced in WvW, it’s weak in PvE.

Based on the above statement, it will get nerfed.

Nothing to see here, move along.

src: SotG May31

Esplen.3940:

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

It’s a 10 second, almost guaranteed kill skill (if used properly.) I don’t see what the issue is here.

It’s too strong in sPvP, it’s balanced in WvW, it’s weak in PvE.

Based on the above statement, it will get nerfed.

Nothing to see here, move along.

src: SotG May31

err… the balance team is only looking at moa morph destroying all enemy summons.

Ex. Necro minions die when the necro is moa morphed

I think the balance team actually like the skill and lolz so they will not make it worthless

Delete it

Phantasmal Mark III
Summon a phantasmal Mark III Combat Golem, a champion enemy able to fire wide-spread bursts or electrify the nearby area.

There, issue solved.

Fineprint: Only available to asura mesmers.

Other races get a Phantasmal Asura summon, which in turn calls down the golem!

(edit)
That gave me an interesting idea for a Mesmer Elite:

Impersonator
Summon a phantasmal copy of your target, which can be yourself.
The copy uses the equipped weapon, utility and healing abilities and the class mechanics of the person copied, but never their elite ability. If an ability was on cooldown, the copy will start with the same cooldown on their ability.
Duration: No clue.
Numbers:: No clue, obviously not as strong as an actual player, but shouldn’t be too far behind either. Depends on duration and CD.

In short, 100Blades Phantasm

moa not op
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4jODyy-zek

drongas.4189:

moa not op
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4jODyy-zek

It is a glass cannon mesmer (4900 and +5200 from iduelist)

Also, Thief with 40pc of the life + moa + iduelist + magic bullet + phantasmal haste + bit lucky (not hitted by thiefs guild) + stupid thief who attacks with 5 stacks of confusion when downed.

There are much more factors than moa for that win…

PD: He is also a good mesmer.

not glass canon mesmer
soldier armor set and bers trinket/guns

Let’s just go for lulz, here. Fine, remove Moa …

I’ll sign up for:
Phantasmal Arrowcart

Need I say anything else?

Advent.6193:

Let’s just go for lulz, here. Fine, remove Moa …

I’ll sign up for:
Phantasmal Arrowcart

Need I say anything else?

i wanna summon 3 i duelist instant cast ^^

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Gj on fixing the skill 5 run skill distance on people who have been moa’d anet. However this skill still needs a few changes, for example 180 rechange time is too long imo. Currently also it can be dodged and casted even tho the target is out of range which means it doesnt cast on target and the caster has to wait 180sec for it to recharge again. It needs a fix like ‘mirrow images’ does where it wont active unless a target is selected and is in range. Also currently theifs who trait for stealth on falling damage can use this trait stealth even as a moa and on top of that if the theif has stealth available from their steal skill pre moa morphed they can still use that skill to stealth. It only lasts 10 seconds and they could get upto 6 seconds of stealth still as moa with their traits and steal.

These things need to be changed no stealth traits should work while the theif is in Moa form, and F1 (steal) should not be available to them also. That or reduce the moa morph recharge time from 180sec to 90sec pls.

I keep hearing this “counterplay” arguement on the forum. How would I counter play after I have been moa’d? Can I use stun break?

You seriously want an “IWIN” button every 90 secs?

drongas.4189:

not glass canon mesmer
soldier armor set and bers trinket/guns

Lets be clear:
- Phantasmal build (10/30/0/25/5)
- Runes of air.
- Foods.
- Sure he has +30pc damage to illusions.

With food, he can easily have nearly 50pc of critical chance and 96pc of critical damage, plus +3000 of attack.
Phantasms have nearly 70pc of critical chance, combined with Sharper Images…

Maybe is not a pure glass cannon in terms of what it means, but for a phantasmal build is nearly the most offensive way to go. Soldier armor is just to be not so squishy.

If you think a roamer thief has to survive to a offensive phanstamal build beeing transformed with 40pc of life and hitted by a iduelist while stunned from magic bullet, then it would probably be OP, but from the other side…

PD: My point wasntt to say if he went full glass cannon or not. What I was trying to say is that everyone who see a kill with a Moa stop thinking and start to write Moa is OP, without even seeing deeply the match or realising what other things brang up the win.

we talk about me
and yes moa is OP in 1 vs 1(2) situations, but its zero in 5+ battles

MIrra.3604:

You seriously want an “IWIN” button every 90 secs?

No, I want an ability which is useful for another purpose than to make people cry on the forum. Because really, Moa doesn’t do anything. Sure, it moas someone. The keep is still lost. The boss is immune. The enemy team compensates because they had to assume the 1v1 might not go in their favour.

What’s the point of this ability? Looks funny, completely pointless.

Carighan.6758:

MIrra.3604:

You seriously want an “IWIN” button every 90 secs?

No, I want an ability which is useful for another purpose than to make people cry on the forum. Because really, Moa doesn’t do anything. Sure, it moas someone. The keep is still lost. The boss is immune. The enemy team compensates because they had to assume the 1v1 might not go in their favour.

What’s the point of this ability? Looks funny, completely pointless.

I agree. So can we remove it from the game already?

Carighan.6758:

Other races get a Phantasmal Asura summon, which in turn calls down the golem!

(edit)
That gave me an interesting idea for a Mesmer Elite:

Impersonator
Summon a phantasmal copy of your target, which can be yourself.
The copy uses the equipped weapon, utility and healing abilities and the class mechanics of the person copied, but never their elite ability. If an ability was on cooldown, the copy will start with the same cooldown on their ability.
Duration: No clue.
Numbers:: No clue, obviously not as strong as an actual player, but shouldn’t be too far behind either. Depends on duration and CD.

In short, 100Blades Phantasm

Oh yes!

That would be so weird – I think it should be unshatterable and excluded from the active illusion count.
And it should have retaliation, so whenever the enemy attacks it, they are in effect attacking (hurting) themselves.

Moa is incredibly easy to dodge, miss or blocked. Go watch a video on the casting animation and avoid the elite, simple as that. It’s definitely not an IWIN button as if we miss it we would waste a elite, what other elite skills are like that? You get caught by a mesmer with moa you deserve that 10 second of running-around-like-idiot-while-we-busrt-you-down.

Carighan.6758:

MIrra.3604:

You seriously want an “IWIN” button every 90 secs?

No, I want an ability which is useful for another purpose than to make people cry on the forum. Because really, Moa doesn’t do anything. Sure, it moas someone. The keep is still lost. The boss is immune. The enemy team compensates because they had to assume the 1v1 might not go in their favour.

What’s the point of this ability? Looks funny, completely pointless.

I find it usefull in team fights. If someone gives us trouble and relies alot on active defense, i target and moa him, problem solved.
The 3vs3 turned in a 2vs3 (not temporarily, because we killed the moa) and we can cap the point and probably win the team fight.
Im talking about spvp tournaments by the way.

Make a utility named blackout disable all of targets skills for 6 seconds 10 if traited then remove moa from the game problem solved