Guild Wars 2

The Evolution of my Previous attempt at this DPS build:

Stuff it still possesses
1. Protection(Permanent)
2. Regen(Near Perma)
3. Aegis(Very Often)
4. Stealth(around 19 seconds of stealth)
5. Reflection(Awesome!)
6. Distortion(Still OK CD)

What has it Become???
This build has become a Shatter/Phantasm Hybrid spec with the ability to stealth on demand.

What the Heck does the stealth provide?
It provides around 20 seconds of protection and 40 if lucky, it also grants 20 seconds of regen if you are fortunate. Also gives constant Aegis*

Why Staff??
It gives me around 10 seconds of swiftness if successful, constant flow of Aegis, and AOE Damage against many people.

How much Might stacks can I get???
Staff auto attack gives me 7 seconds of might. This also applies to the clones when their autoattacks bounce right back at me. Weapon swap gives me around 35 duration of 3Might stacks. Most often you can gain 8-10 might stacks, which is
200-250 power and condition boost.

How does it fair against condition builds?
It has been upgraded to -50% condition uptime on YOU

What’s up with the empty utility skill slot??
I have given you a choice. If you are comfortable with the -50% condition duration uptime, go with Blink, but if you still feel unsure, go with Arcane Thievery. In group roam, however, I suggest you go with the Signet of Inspiration.

Why go with the Mirror heal skill? One that gives only 3900 healing?
It gives 2 seconds of reflection. It is the difference between Life and Death against few Rangers, Engis, and Pistol/Pistol thieves. Also the sustained Regen and Stealth provides many defensive capabilities that go well with this heal skill.

Hope you guyz have the willingness to see or try this build out. Cheers!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW8Ml0zCrZUjtmEx0DiD5AOUF0OSFUtSK4tLE-jEDBYgAojRmEJQEBwJPFRjtMMslRBp8KaabYKXCyqYJ1grIa1SBwkwI-w

OK. I will be the first and I promise you it will be my only post.

How does this counter condition builds exactly?

You have under 16k health. I will eat that away in a few seconds.
Going into stealth on Mesmer doesn’t cleans conditions so all my conditions are going to tick on you while you are in stealth.
Protection doesn’t affect conditions on you.
Your Aegis my save you from one attack say from my staff but if will not save you from anything else.
Most of my and necros condition applying is not reflectable or blockable. For example: torment on block is not reflectable. You can reflect a few seconds of Winds of Chaos, thats nice I have another round coming from myself and my clones to eat you up. Necros marks can be traited to be unblockable and they are unreflecable. Scepter2 is unreflectable. Condition on weapon swap sigils are not reflectable sept fo the a few of them that put the condition on your next attack. Distortion isn’t going to last long enough to save you from the conditions I have on you.

You will not be able to avoid getting any and all conditions on you even if you have the mobility and skill lvl of Osicat. Most condition heavy builds are made to stack the conditions and then survive. Simply put: you have yet again drastically overstated and overestimated yet another theory craft that you claim to be amazing.

If you know something I don’t please do tell.

So to counter condition builds, you make a build with 0 condition removal?

Teach me your ways!

This guy was in the Necro forums not long ago posting untested build after untested build and received hell for it. Looks like he’s moved on to the Mesmer forums.

Apologies…

Here we go again.

Pyroatheist.9031:

So to counter condition builds, you make a build with 0 condition removal?

Teach me your ways!

He is taking lemongrass soup but often that’s not enough in the condition spam meta we live in currently.

Pyroatheist.9031:

So to counter condition builds, you make a build with 0 condition removal?

Teach me your ways!

The toughness from the cavalier gear will totally save him from conditions, duh.

You guyz crack me up! You guyz talk like Ima just gonna stand there and watch as all the conditions flow to me and I die. I have stated in the first post that this build has a Fairly good chance of handling conditions. Now you guyz are acting like this build is supposed to be some Condition Canceler build or something, which is not its purpose in the first place. I laughed so hard while reading your posts. Here are some things I can do with this build that prevents conditions or stops them.

1.Dodge(Everyone can Dodge!)
2. Stealth(It hides you from your enemies!)
3. Distortion(Don’t get conditions in the First place!)
4. Range( Stay away from your opponents condition range!)
5. Lemon grass soup(-40% cond. uptime on you!) 10 seconds bleed> 6 seconds etc…
6. Kill your enemies by Bursting them down with your build!
7. Aegis also prevents from having conditions in the first place!
8. Sustained Regen is pretty good healing, even if it’s not alot.

These are all the things you can do with this build to not get any conditions. If you still don’t approve, you can just drop the Signet of Inspiration and go for Arcane Thievery and switch the Illusionary Defense trait for the Master of Manipulation trait. I only went for the Inspiration Signet for the Extra Aegis it could give me, also the swiftness. Then problemo Solved!!!!

As for Pyros. I was ok with other people’s comments, even Hexxen’s, because I could explain to them in the end, but you on the other hand, made it clear to me that you don’t want to be friends with me even after I PMed you and asked in my other posts that I was sorry. You act like all my posts are directed to yourself only. You are starting to get really selfish. That comment you made was the last straw. Reported.

Menace, we have made it pretty obvious that we are getting tired of this. And I for one don’t believe you have been creating builds or even playing Mesmer long enough to post one build on the Mesmer Forums let alone post the 3 you have posted in the past what? 2 weeks? Also you might want to listen to some of these people including Pyro. They have been at it a long time and are some of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to building a Mesmer. So please give it a rest.

@Pyro sorry for bumping this thread, he really starting to kitten me off.

You know Kaamau, I have actually tested this build for quite some time before even trying to post it up here. This build has good potential man. I just posted a lot of builds lately to try to get other people to post their builds to so we can share feedbacks. I have tried extensively with this build. I am sorta sad that you think I am annoying you, which is not my intention. This build I have right now is my final hope this year. I have lost hope of trying to build other builds after this one because I ran out of ideas. I’m not gonna be messing with other builds for a while except this one. I really hope we can be friends. But the thing is, these days, Pyros don’t even try to listen to all the stuff I say when making this post. I have apologized to him about 3-4 times and he don’t even look at it. Nowadays his just looks at the build creator, finding it’s me, and starts to just say mean stuff without even Trying to accept my apologizes. Only reason he is mad is because when we met to fight that one time in the arena, I asked him about my posts and how he feels about them, and he just went on saying how annoying I was instead of hearing my side of the story, that’s why he thinks he has the reason to still be mad at me even after I apologized.

@Pyros. If you are seeing this post, I hope we can be friends or something. I beg you to put our pasts aside. I apologize once more Pyros….

…so this is the last build you’re posting?

Sorta yes, I will still comment on other builds if I can help them at all, but yes, I will try to make this my lasts build post for this year.

Christmas has come early if this is really the last build you’re posting. At first these threads and builds were hilarious because of how bad they are but each iteration is just getting sadder and sadder.

It was outlined really early on in the thread by Hexxen why this build won’t ‘handle’ condition builds at all, which you completely disregarded. The abilities you listed that would help you with conditions are poorly reasoned and were already pointed out as not effective ways to deal with a condition build. It is painfully clear that this testing you keep talking about is probably an hour or two in wvw or spvp, which can barely be called testing at all.

New mesmers coming to the forums shouldn’t be subjected to things like this when they come looking for information about the class.

Laar, I just want some feedbacks on the build. All I ever want when making some new builds is feedbacks. But that’s what I never do seem to get. I just want feedbacks instead of some kind of Life Lesson in the Mesmer forums. That is what forums are supposed to be about, a place where people can help each other, but do to my lack of adequete words in my early posts to defend myself against harrasers, you guyz are acting like I’m a total bad example that nobody should follow. You guyz have told me to be careful what I say because it might make the person you are talking to get angry. That is waht I have been trying to do. But now you guyz are not doing the things that you told me to do, which is be more nicer. Whatever do you want me to doo???

While my previous experiences with your abysmal builds, incredibly bad attitude, and overall annoyance do weigh heavily in my mind whenever I interact with you, Menace, I do read your builds, since a stopped clock is still right twice a day. Allow me to explain precisely why this particular build is horrible.

The first problem is that you have 0 methods of removing conditions. Even in a build that has high uptimes on evasion and whatnot, this means you will die to the conditions that get through.

A second problem is that you appear to be using Signet of Inspiration in a way that doesn’t revolve around its active, but instead around the passive boon generation. This is a horrific choice, and makes your build weaker.

An additional problem is your lack of any reasonable source of damage. You go 30 points into illusions, taking Illusionary Persona and Illusionary Invigoration along the way, indicating that this build should be a shatter heavy build. Unfortunately, you lack the trait Deceptive Evasion, which is necessary for any shatter heavy build, and you even lack high clone generation in your utilities.

On top of that, due to your traiting and rune selection, despite having a large amount of berserker armor, making your build squishier than a real tank build, you have very low power and very low critical damage, meaning that what shatters you are able to hit will do very low damage.

Fighting this Build

Fighting this build would be extremely simple. Since you don’t do any damage, you aren’t a threat in any way. There are multiple options to kill this build.

The most obvious one would be conditions. With your incredibly low health and lack of any condition removal, any applied conditions would melt you. In WvW, a single scepter block combined with a bleed and a burn would kill you (yes, that counts the food).

Alternatively, direct damage will also kill you. Your high uptime on protection and regeneration and reasonable armor will make this take a bit longer, but since you don’t do even enough damage to threaten a full berserker build, anyone fighting you has all the time in the world necessary.

The third option of dealing with this build is to simply ignore it and walk in the other direction. You can’t do anything dangerous in this build, so there’s no need to even kill it.

TYYYYYYY Pyros. all I ever hoped for was some generous feedbacks. I hope we can try to be more friendly to one another in the future. I am glad that you gave me some feed backs. I totally appreciate what you have done for me. This is what I ever wanted. If I need some more DPS and some more cond removal, then that is exactly waht I will go for. Ty for your tremendous help.

Kitten I have to post again darn it.

Menace you ask for feedback but you already say that you have tested extensively. If you had tested extensively like you said then all of pyros feedback (which by the way is directly inline with what I said) wouldn’t be feedback that you would be thankful for because you would have figured it all out already.

Your blatant lying on top of the fact that after you “apologize” you go right back to doing the thing that you apologized for shows just how either you don’t really mean it or how totally immature you are. You are young so the immature thing is reasonable but we have explained how to say things better. Heck English is a second language for me and I can write better than you. (English may be your second as well, not sure.) How could you have tested this build extensively when just a day ago you were testing that kitted awful other PU build you tried to shuve down our throats.

I have noticed you left the necros forums please leave our and move onto another class so someone else has to deal with you. Or better yet stop all together as pyro has suggested. Anyway I am going to be flying to America and wont be able to respond anymore which is kind of a blessing for me cause I wont be able to see anymore of your train wrecks.

Hexxen.7216:

Menace you ask for feedback but you already say that you have tested extensively. If you had tested extensively like you said then all of pyros feedback (which by the way is directly inline with what I said) wouldn’t be feedback that you would be thankful for because you would have figured it all out already.

Mhmm. The only thing this kid has been testing extensively is our patience.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Laar, I just want some feedbacks on the build. All I ever want when making some new builds is feedbacks. But that’s what I never do seem to get. I just want feedbacks instead of some kind of Life Lesson in the Mesmer forums. That is what forums are supposed to be about, a place where people can help each other, but do to my lack of adequete words in my early posts to defend myself against harrasers, you guyz are acting like I’m a total bad example that nobody should follow. You guyz have told me to be careful what I say because it might make the person you are talking to get angry. That is waht I have been trying to do. But now you guyz are not doing the things that you told me to do, which is be more nicer. Whatever do you want me to doo???

You keep saying the word feedback but I don’t think you understand what it means. Feedback is an evaluative response, it can be positive or negative depending on the material being evaluated. If the builds are bad the feedback will be bad, you have been getting feedback all along but choose to either ignore it or whine about people harassing you; negative feedback is not necessarily harassment, negative feedback means the source material is inadequate or bad (I can’t say this enough).

Here is a simple example: you write a paper for school and submit it to your teacher. The paper is poorly researched, poorly written and generally full of errors, so you get a terrible mark. That bad mark is feedback, your teacher telling you your paper is bad, the teacher is not harassing you.

This is a generalisation, but people on the internet aren’t going to sugar coat things for you, it’s painfully clear that you’re not experienced enough to understand this. All of your builds have gotten the feedback you are so desperately crying for, it just isn’t the feedback you are looking for.

I won’t repeat what others have said regarding this build in particular, but if you did serious testing, and real theory crafting instead of posting half a dozen random builds, you might get some of the positive feedback you desire.

(I know posting, but insomnia)

Listen, i dont mind you coming up wih ideas for new builds, in fact, i congratulate you for not being a cookie cutter mesmer and trying to find your own style.

That said…

Please, put more thought in the way you write your OPs, and test your build more to see if its actually worth it sharing with the community.

Try to go here and post simple builds (just traits and gear, no detailed information), and listen to feedback of what experienced people have to say.

Alternatively… Join the OMFG. Im serious, join it.
Yes, Pyro is in it, and no, you dont have to notice. You dont ever have to represent or say anything in guildchat.
So why join? Well for a simple reason. We have testers and teachers in the guild who are always willing to help with mesmer related stuff, be it strategy, builds, writing threads or even fashion.

Just be nice, and ask constructive questions, and they would love to help you.

Pyro is not “higher ranked” than anyone else in the guild. Sure, he can change your role or kick you, but he wont. He will only kick you if you go around harassing/annoying people, which you wont, because you just want healthy discussions, right?

Please put some thought in it, and feel free to PM me if you need anything.

Hooookay….
So this build is a shatter build. You have IP. Cool… Illusionary invigoration (not taken often anymore because the timing on it isn’t all that great.) I mean you can be at half health and not used any shatter skills yet and then it procs and you just wasted a 20 point trait. There are better option such as precise wrack etc but you got illusionary invigoration…. and then you have… no deceptive evasion…..
you have no deceptive evasion….
no…
deceptive….
evasion…
See the point?

Secondly like pyro said you are taking signet of inspiration… Why?
The passive isn’t all to amazing and it is specifically more of a support type thing with the active, (hence why my protection build is so popular for dungeon runners perma protection and consistent heals for the whole party.)
You are running pretty much all zerker stats…. but the sources of your damage are shatters and you have lower clone output than well… anyone else running shatter build.

Lastly you are claiming to be amazing for condi removal… however your condi removal in this build is…..
….. Oh yeah nada zip zilch…. If you want to claim to be “good” against condis… I highly advise you to actually take condition removal SOMEWHERE. I mean even arcane thievery would be good.

I’m sorry but there is no other way to put this. But this build isn’t all that great. In a shatter build DE is way more important than IP hands down flat out. I suggest moving the 10 points from illusions to dueling. And then running sword sword… You really have no reason to be running PU in a shatter build. 0/20/20/0/30 bountiful interruption would do you much better then you can also take hoelbrak runes which=-20% condition duration.

Please think about the intricacies of the mesmer class and what it takes to make something “work” for these builds.

Yes, I worked extensively with this version of the build, but yesterday, after I posted and all, I worked another 3 hours, and during that time, I fought many warriors, and they just destroyed my clones. that annoyed me alotttt. So now I am gonna take into account Pyros and everyone else’s suggestions and build a better build.

I am still trying to have these things in the final build

1.Aegis
2.Perma Protection
3.Stealth
4. High DPS
5. Sustained Regen
6. Reflection(trait and skill)
7.OK Distortion Cd

1. aegis, take a staff.
2. perma protection, prismatic understanding with runes
3. stealth, use decoy or mass invis
4. high dps, use 0/20/0/0/30 or 10/10/0/25/0
5. sustained regen, prismatic udnerstanding or stand close to phantasms (dont do that in wvw >_<)
6. reflection, use 25 inspiration and a focus. masterfull reflection is a useless trait.
7. OK distortion Cd, dont trait for stats, trait for traits. (mesmer 101).

Perma protection requires alot of sacrifice, and having only a few sources leaves you vulnerable to stripping. I would recommend not aiming for perma protection, mobility and active defense is much more valuable than protection.

Oh, and did you ignore my post, or just didnt read it (yet)? Well, i tried…

Umm,, I actually did read your post when I first got on this morning. I’m not sure Alissah, I mean I would like to join and all, but I feel the need to apologize to Pyros one more time. so here it is

@Pyros. I am sorry for annoying the heck out of you. I just want some suggestions on all of my builds is all I want.

I actually kinda think I would need the Masterful Reflection trait just cause it saved me a bunch of times when I was bein targetted by some nooby rangers

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Umm,, I actually did read your post when I first got on this morning. I’m not sure Alissah, I mean I would like to join and all, but I feel the need to apologize to Pyros one more time. so here it is

@Pyros. I am sorry for annoying the heck out of you. I just want some suggestions on all of my builds is all I want.

I actually kinda think I would need the Masterful Reflection trait just cause it saved me a bunch of times when I was bein targetted by some nooby rangers

Here you go again not listening to people, Masterful reflection is a waste. Masterful Reflection didn’t save you the evasion caused by distortion saved you; maybe there is some niche use for the trait in pve fighting things like Lupicus, but the short reflect it causes is not worth it elsewhere.

Actually, the updated build I’m working on has everything else you guyz wanted, I just felt like this trait could be of some use, like against Pistol Pistol thief, or knock back Ranger, or some Hard core Condition Engi.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

@Pyros. I am sorry for annoying the heck out of you.

No you’re not. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions are telling a very different story.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

I just want some suggestions on all of my builds is all I want.

You’ve gotten lots of suggestions every time. You haven’t listened yet.

You know pyros, just because I don’t respond to all those suggestions, doesn’t mean I’m not trying to incorporate them in all my builds. I sincerely actually read all of them. Maybe that’s why people think I am ignorant, because I don’t seem to respond to all their suggestions. It’s because sometimes, their suggestions are so good, that I don’t have time to respond. I just go straight to work on the builds. Anyways, like I said, I am thinking about your suggestions as we speak.

Why Masterful reflection ? The trait is terrible. Mimic do it better.

Like many said already, you don’t have a condition remover. I see that your build is WvW focused since you will eat a Lemongrass, but it won’t be viable in PvP.

Also to everyone else, give him a break.

I read most if not all of the posts here on the Mesmer forums and I’ve been paying close attention to menace’s builds and it’s really the same rhetoric.

“Build <name of build>”
“I’ve tested this extensively…”
“How can I make this build effective?”
“Suggestions”
“Please respond”

Pyro and jport have been more than helpful in trying to steer you in what to do but you’re not taking their advise at all. Reading your posts and looking at your builds, it seems as if you have a very minimal understanding of the Mesmer class. People have been very upfront with you and you’re choosing to ignore that.

I think everyone has been very patient with you and has tried to help but you’re not taking their advise at all.

Yes, most of my builds look downright funny and ridiculous, but what my way of doing it is, if I get a brilliant idea, I just post it up here after few hours of testing. Then I start to take people’s suggestions and my own suggestions after the testing the build and build myself around that. I am sorry if you think I am not trying to take people’s advices, it’s just that whenever I test, I can’t seem to find some good people to test against and only find them a few hours after the posting, that is why you all think this build is downright ridonculus and not planned out in the beginning. I swear this is true. Again, I’ve got nothing to say. I wish I can find the right people to duel against right away, but that does not come so easily for me. I don’t know why

Edit: My build is starting to have a teeny bit more survivability and a lot more damage. How do you guyz approve of -50% condition removal???

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

if I get a brilliant idea

a brilliant idea

brilliant

lol.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

I don’t know why

Word of advise: test your build out pretty extensively before coming here and constantly asking about your build. Go into WvW, go into s/tPvP, go into PvE and see how the build plays out. Again, test it extensively before posting about the “best new build”.

Just as an edit: What you post is straight theorycraft. Make one post and add to it about your theorycraft builds. That would suite you best.

you know, you guyz are 110% right. I might try that idea of one post having everything from my theory craft list. But right now, I would like to improve upon this build I have in preparedness.

somehow i got the feeling, that i am encountering an OP who undestood the very core mechanics of the mesmer – Confusing your enemies and making them question their perception of reality, as he is:

- changing thread titles faster than i can pop my clones (hm a new built on the forum lets check it out … oh no i already read this…twice???)

- slapping my eyeballs with massive walls of text

- attracting my attention by the tremendous use of bold letters (kitten i read it…again)

- apologizing for selfbumping threads will still not showing any ambtion to do otherwise

Congratulations menace. You are the real Mesmer, cause still i am

Gozzo, I have not self bumped once in this post, as I am trying to refrain from. I have not changed this thread’s title, and I use bold letters where I feel is important. I am only apologizing not to annoy you guyz or make you guyz feel better, but cause I genuinely feel that there is sort of a misunderstanding that needs to be cleared up so we can all be friends from now on.

argh can’t resist his mindtrickery… ok..friends (shiver)

you know buddy, I have not disobeyed any of the rules in this thread except for the fact that I couldn’t spend more time against different professions with this build before I posted it up here, so you have no right to diss me like that, you must be a real nice chap in real life then. Even though you are a massive jerk at me right now, I hope someday we can be friends..

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Yes, most of my builds look downright funny and ridiculous, but what my way of doing it is, if I get a brilliant idea, I just post it up here after few hours of testing. Then I start to take people’s suggestions and my own suggestions after the testing the build and build myself around that. I am sorry if you think I am not trying to take people’s advices, it’s just that whenever I test, I can’t seem to find some good people to test against and only find them a few hours after the posting, that is why you all think this build is downright ridonculus and not planned out in the beginning. I swear this is true. Again, I’ve got nothing to say. I wish I can find the right people to duel against right away, but that does not come so easily for me. I don’t know why

Edit: My build is starting to have a teeny bit more survivability and a lot more damage. How do you guyz approve of -50% condition removal???

Which is why i suggested joining the mesmer guild.

If you get a brilliant idea, discuss it with people first before throwing it out in the open and annoying people.
If they think its decent they can also help you with writing OPs… But I guess you already rejected it and this is the last time I’ll mention it.

If you just want to continue annoying people, then its your loss because youre missing a very amazing chance to become part of the community. Oh, and people dont like being annoyed.

edit: this is a horrible name btw, please change it.

I will join the guild Alissah. Lol calm down plz. I will also change the build name since you so despise it. But I have updated the build yesterday, I think no one got to see it. It is pretty good now I should think. Much better effectiveness.

Edit: I would like to keep my old build name.. Lol

Could someone comment/critique this build?
Plz?

Menace please shut your mouth! I hate to jump on the bandwagon of being mean to you but what the hell menace. Stop. Do you know what an apology is? You say sorry and then you try to not do it again, you just apologize then keel saying people are judging you constantly… Stop please! You’re builds suck, we all know it and that is fine but people are only mean to you because it is CONSTANT! YOU don’t mean your apology, you keep doing the same crap. I know you are going to jump on this and say it is mean, it is, but somebody needs to slap some sense into you! Just learn about the class and the GAME IN GENERAL before you go all super 1337 pro builds on here. STAHHHHHP!

Oh by the way. Don’t say you ate laughing so hard at everyone’s comments like they’re moons and stupid and ignorant. Menace, you are the idiot in this situation. You are a prick than apologize for it and post kitten! I’m done Menace.

Umm, Ok?? lol. Overlord, I have not once broken any rule in this thread even once. I asked nicely for people to check it out. I updated the build according to all you guyz and my suggestions, and I am not apologizing to make you feel better, but because I feel that we need to clear up our misunderstandings and be friends. So I do not know why yu just blasted me like that. Hope you calm down a bit and return to this thread so we can talk calmly.

EDit: I only said I laughed at your comments because I couldn’t believe that you turned something I said into some kind of weapon against me. I was laughing at you guyz because of the fact that in the first post, I stated this build is ok in handling conditions, and you guyz just went on blasting me in the face about how this build should have been designed to totally counter conditions and all. Anyways, that’s that. I thought you were really calm when yu were talking to me in the OMFG build thread. What happened.??

I have been calm for every single one of your selfbumped crap threads you have started… Start asking around OTHER BUILDS exploring OTHERS before you decide to be the originator of an allegedly effective build. They aren’t effected because you are new to mesmer and are uneducated on the matter. Stick to mesmer if you want, and learn it, ask pyro for tips and tricks, he’d be happy to unless you have kitten ed him off too much by now. Mesmer takes a LONG TIME TO MASTER.

Dude, like I said, I am trying to turn a new leaf by not breaking the rules of the forums. I have not self bumped at all in this post. All my posts were in response to you guyz comments, and they were not at all Rude in any sense. You might think that that one comment I made about laughin so hard at your comments is rude because I couldn’t comprehend why you thought this build was some kind of Anti Condition build. So that’s why I laughed. Anyways, I have not broken the rule once in this thread. Hope we can be friends….

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

I will join the guild Alissah. Lol calm down plz. I will also change the build name since you so despise it. But I have updated the build yesterday, I think no one got to see it. It is pretty good now I should think. Much better effectiveness.

Edit: I would like to keep my old build name.. Lol

Could someone comment/critique this build?
Plz?

Just remember that you’re joining for yourself, not for me, or anyone else. Judging by your reaction, i dont think you understand my intend in giving you this opportunity…

You only have one chance at this, and it may be the last chance for you to properly fit in the mesmer community, and be treated as a normal community member.

I guess ill take a look at your updated build tomorrow when i have acces to my laptop.

In the future; try making “please help me making a build” instead of “look at my uber build that counters conditions without condition removal” threads. People will respond alot better to it… Maybe.

edit: people probably dont like me inviting you, they think theyve seen enough, which i completely understand. Every thread more or less the same thing happens.
However… I hope theres more than we are seeing now, and i hope you deserve the proper second chance im trying to give you.

So far my hope has been very much misplaced, but its not too late to change, choose your next words very carefully.

I know that I am joining for myself, I just said that you suggested taht I join. What’s wrong with me giving you credit?

Alissah.9281:

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

I will join the guild Alissah. Lol calm down plz.

Just remember that you’re joining for yourself, not for me, or anyone else. Judging by your reaction, i dont think you understand my intend in giving you this opportunity…

@Menace, telling someone to calm down is no way to speak to someone who was genuinely trying to help you, especially considering the circumstances of your recent posts on these forums. You have to choose your words more carefully.

You were laughing at us for criticizing your claim of ultimate condition removal. You said something like that in your OP which I can’t quote directly because you edited it. The only way to deal with conditions in your original build was lemongrass food (this is mitigation, not removal) and hardly worthy of the claim you made.

Please understand every single time you claim something is good, best, ultimate, anything of the sort in your posts, you will be immediately met with skepticism. You have to be humble in your speech in order to expect any kind of honest help. I have to say it appears you are lost on this concept despite the multiple admonitions you’ve been given.

@Menace: Know what this is?

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

You guyz crack me up! You guyz talk like Ima just gonna stand there and watch as all the conditions flow to me and I die. I have stated in the first post that this build has a Fairly good chance of handling conditions. Now you guyz are acting like this build is supposed to be some Condition Canceler build or something, which is not its purpose in the first place. I laughed so hard while reading your posts. Here are some things I can do with this build that prevents conditions or stops them.

1.Dodge(Everyone can Dodge!)
2. Stealth(It hides you from your enemies!)
3. Distortion(Don’t get conditions in the First place!)
4. Range( Stay away from your opponents condition range!)
5. Lemon grass soup(-40% cond. uptime on you!) 10 seconds bleed> 6 seconds etc…
6. Kill your enemies by Bursting them down with your build!
7. Aegis also prevents from having conditions in the first place!
8. Sustained Regen is pretty good healing, even if it’s not alot.

These are all the things you can do with this build to not get any conditions. If you still don’t approve, you can just drop the Signet of Inspiration and go for Arcane Thievery and switch the Illusionary Defense trait for the Master of Manipulation trait. I only went for the Inspiration Signet for the Extra Aegis it could give me, also the swiftness. Then problemo Solved!!!!

As for Pyros. I was ok with other people’s comments, even Hexxen’s, because I could explain to them in the end, but you on the other hand, made it clear to me that you don’t want to be friends with me even after I PMed you and asked in my other posts that I was sorry. You act like all my posts are directed to yourself only. You are starting to get really selfish. That comment you made was the last straw. Reported.

This is proof positive that you have to sit back, relax, and suckle upon the information everyone is trying to feed you.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt with the first build, and I kept my word and gave honest criticism on “Hidden Plague 3.0” (Which, by the time I saw it, had developed into something very interesting with quite a bit of potential) but now it’s obvious that you don’t nearly spend enough time learning and developing your builds and too much time just fishing for attention.

Firstly, learn the class. All of the above “features” of the build you listed can be relicated by any Mesmer with a staff and Decoy. Use the guild to try out different builds and talk with people so you can learn exactly what makes the top builds stand out and how to really make yourself unique.

Secondly, master a playstyle; a jack of all trades is a king of none. Don’t spend a couple hours with a good build, spend from two weeks to a month and I guarantee you’ll learn more and more and make better builds because of it. Stop begging for attention from others and pay more attention honing your technique.

Finally, the reason people are getting annoyed is exactly because you ignore so many well thought-out and posts that people are taking several minutes of their time writing to try and educate you. You barely give any sort of word of thanks and when you do it sounds hollow because you continue to make the same mistakes. Stop trying to insinuate that Pyroathiest is some cruel bully-dictator that’s trying to oppress you for no reason. theres plenty reason for his oppression He’s been more than fair and rational with you like he is with everyone else, and people have given you more than enough feedback for this particular build.

You don’t need any more constructive criticism, you need to reflect on the information here and practice.

Chaos, I’m sorry for being rude if that is a concern of yours, I know it has been previously in his posts. But he has irked me far too much and it doesn’t get through his head, so I’m trying to nail it in there. I’m sorry if you found it harsh.