Guild Wars 2

With the recent and slight buffs to the Power Mesmer, can the Domi/Inspi/Chrono Power Shatter build hold a candle against all the Condi Mes builds running around now? In terms of viablity I mean.

Also, what are some nice runes to run with it?

Yes it can this is a build I was trying as chrono, you need to be careful on your mantra charging but it has enough cleanses, sustain and other mitigation to kill a condi chrono and even berserker warriors. Just make sure you leave a 1-2s gap between each power return use so it procs the menders purity both times.

It’s a build very close to what Tsuki Yomi uses though he will always try to delete comments showing his build as he considers it a super secret build lol. Watch some of his videos if you want an example of how it plays. He uses power block I believe and personally I like it with the number of interrupts you can have as chrono especially with gravity well. If new take mental anguish, if you see you get interrupts a lot especially on heals take power block.

Edit: As always playing smart will get you a win and a lot of people play condi mesmer because it’s easy and low risk, high reward. This means experienced mesmers can usually pull a win or force them to run if you pack enough cleanses.

That build looks way too glassy to fight decent thieves/warriors? Or dealing with multiple engagements? Just curious not slanting it.

The problem with power is you have 2 lines taken up straight away for WvW, you need inspiration for your condi clear. If you dont take this line you have to use up a utility slot for Mantra of Resolve. With the amount of condi in WvW now these are a must unless you are running a full yolo old school shatter with GS burst build. Which pretty much works around hiding in stealth until your burst is up. But with all the reveals now it has lost a lot of efficacy for roaming.

Your other line is taken up with Chrono for the 25% movement speed and clone/phantasm recursion. If you dont have the recursion for clones you will need deceptive evasion. Let alone running around in WvW with no speed is an exercise in frustration.

This leaves you with 1 line for power, which is usually dom. I have pretty much the exact same power/crit chance and crit dmg as that build and trying to drop condi bunkers is tough work. Then theres the sustain crazy adrenal health Zerkers that will be hitting this build for 9k eviscerates, arc dividers. And the crazy sustain Druids who will blast their smoke field or pop stab go cele avatar and heal almost back to full.

Like ele i just dont think the power options are in a good place. Having said that the condi options are way over the top. Condi chronophantasma is just god tier, especially with the addition of the phantasmal disenchanter buffs to rip resistance.

Chorazin, one of the nice things about defender runes is that you get aegis with a 10s ICD on heal which when paired with the mantra allows for instant aegis for stomping or for blocking a backstab when in GS.

Another strong point is with the shield and defender runes, there’s no ICD on the regen from blocking attacks so it’s very easy to get permanent regen. With a 4k heal every 30s from blocking it allows you to regen the first hit pretty easily and healing mantras gives a pretty decent sustain especially with the cool down reduction from last patch.

Now is it as strong as condi chrono? Hell no. Is it as strong as other power builds on other classes? Not really but you can go toe to toe with them for a long time, think I was fighting a scrapper (pre bulwark nerf) for a good 5-10 mins and got him low several times and kited out his rocket charge. In the end he won because of elixir S auto proc saving him each time I got him low. He /salute and let me rez though as most people know power shatter isn’t in a good place.

That’s nearly identical to what I run expect I prefer scepter over sword for more block. Sometimes I replace shield with pistol. The defender runes are so good that despite having only around 1050 toughness I don’t feel particularly glassy. Not as faceroll as condi but a lot more fun.

apharma.3741:

Yes it can this is a build I was trying as chrono, you need to be careful on your mantra charging but it has enough cleanses, sustain and other mitigation to kill a condi chrono and even berserker warriors. Just make sure you leave a 1-2s gap between each power return use so it procs the menders purity both times.

It’s a build very close to what Tsuki Yomi uses though he will always try to delete comments showing his build as he considers it a super secret build lol. Watch some of his videos if you want an example of how it plays. He uses power block I believe and personally I like it with the number of interrupts you can have as chrono especially with gravity well. If new take mental anguish, if you see you get interrupts a lot especially on heals take power block.

Edit: As always playing smart will get you a win and a lot of people play condi mesmer because it’s easy and low risk, high reward. This means experienced mesmers can usually pull a win or force them to run if you pack enough cleanses.

Hi, sorry for the late reply

Anyway Ive been having a blast with that setup….okay “A blast” is an overstatement. I have been having a little rough time against DDs that run a bit of vit to survive my burst. Partly because I play at a constant 200ms which I think makes a difference when it comes to split second reactions. And partly because my build differs slightly.

It varies in that Im running Ether Feast instead of the Mantra Heal and most importantly, I cant yet make Defender Runes….for reasons undisclosed hehe oops.
Ive been running Dwayna Runes which give a bit of Healing Power and some Regen to try to emulate the Defenders stats but I take it that the Aegis is what I run it for and also the on demand Regen on heal.

Any better rune alternatives? Also how do I go about the initial burst? I often wing it screaming YOLO in my head and throwing GS 2 and maybe Blinking in into a traited F3, GS 3, then F1. But since the first part has such a big tell, the whole thing somtimes gets dodged even though I think Im out of sight. Otherwise, I see dead people

Edit: Also for the life of me I cannot chase down Bunker Eles, Dragonhunters (Stab), let alone Thieves

Zacky.1907:

apharma.3741:

Yes it can this is a build I was trying as chrono, you need to be careful on your mantra charging but it has enough cleanses, sustain and other mitigation to kill a condi chrono and even berserker warriors. Just make sure you leave a 1-2s gap between each power return use so it procs the menders purity both times.

It’s a build very close to what Tsuki Yomi uses though he will always try to delete comments showing his build as he considers it a super secret build lol. Watch some of his videos if you want an example of how it plays. He uses power block I believe and personally I like it with the number of interrupts you can have as chrono especially with gravity well. If new take mental anguish, if you see you get interrupts a lot especially on heals take power block.

Edit: As always playing smart will get you a win and a lot of people play condi mesmer because it’s easy and low risk, high reward. This means experienced mesmers can usually pull a win or force them to run if you pack enough cleanses.

Hi, sorry for the late reply

Anyway Ive been having a blast with that setup….okay “A blast” is an overstatement. I have been having a little rough time against DDs that run a bit of vit to survive my burst. Partly because I play at a constant 200ms which I think makes a difference when it comes to split second reactions. And partly because my build differs slightly.

It varies in that Im running Ether Feast instead of the Mantra Heal and most importantly, I cant yet make Defender Runes….for reasons undisclosed hehe oops.
Ive been running Dwayna Runes which give a bit of Healing Power and some Regen to try to emulate the Defenders stats but I take it that the Aegis is what I run it for and also the on demand Regen on heal.

Any better rune alternatives? Also how do I go about the initial burst? I often wing it screaming YOLO in my head and throwing GS 2 and maybe Blinking in into a traited F3, GS 3, then F1. But since the first part has such a big tell, the whole thing somtimes gets dodged even though I think Im out of sight. Otherwise, I see dead people

Edit: Also for the life of me I cannot chase down Bunker Eles, Dragonhunters (Stab), let alone Thieves

The defender runes are really all about the aegis on heal which is why I take the mantra heal, when charged it’s instant cast so say a warrior is about to primal burst and you’re out of other blocks/invulns you can use your heal. Need to stop a CC while stomping? Heal and get aegis.

Regen on block with no ICD is nice to have a bit of ticking health in the background and the big heal on block every 30s is nice sustain also. Without defender runes I wouldn’t run mantra heal and would go either feast, I’d probably also pick durability or pack runes in that case.

Burst you can

Blink > F3 > mirrorblade > F1 > mind stab
Powerlock > blink > mirrorblade > F1 > mind stab
Tides of time > ileap > F1

Essentially the idea is to stun them then burst onto them utilising that to get your maximum damage from mind wrack. If there’s not a lot of health left the resummoned phatasms might finish them or you can shatter them with cry of frustration to finish them.

The average thief shouldn’t give you much trouble with this build, dragon hunters are a bit of a pain and bunker eles should be easily CC’d to death. Scrappers are at an advantage vs you due to high stab uptime and protection coupled with high regen. It’s for this reason (and aegis) dragon hunters are a pain.