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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

Hello dear mesmers ,

Today ill post my solo roaming build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWl0npRtlpxINcrNyqxY6W2ZlTtUp3I7AA-TFyCABAcIAwR9j92fIMlgYp8TinAge6Dm+EAQIgFzBA-w

1) 1st of all i wanna know what s your oppinion about this build

2) 2nd any improvements for this ? im thinking somehow to take our my torch and add pistol for more condis… but i don t know how

3) should i remove my staff and add a sceptre + pistol ?

Any help will be appreciated tnx a lot for your time

best regards

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Posted by: Absconditus.6804

Absconditus.6804

It’s what people would consider to be a “cheese”-type of build, but if it works for you and you find it fun, stick with it. Don’t let others dictate what you can and can’t enjoy.

You probably want to keep the Torch for your Prismatic Understanding, you could probably even toss out the Mantra of Resolve for Veil, to give yourself even more of a stealth upkeep (remember to enter it twice). You already got a lot of mitigation against conditions through the stealth, and with the current traits, you are removing several conditions from simply healing. Veil would allow you to be what feels like nearly permanently in and out of stealth to your opponents. It can be highly confusing if you re-position yourself well.

There’s nothing that I can see which are specifically flawed in your build. Perhaps you don’t need the Phantasmal Fury as much, but even that’s fine. Maybe you want to take a Sigil of Energy in there. I would fix that one white boot you’re wearing though, haha.

Most people will however, simply run away from you, and you may have noticed that. Nobody likes to fight a PU Mesmer, we all know the Mesmer profession can’t chase that well, and it’s less of a time sink, to simply run in a selected direction and lose them.

If you ever get a bit tired of the PU trait, give Chaotic Interruption a go perhaps. That can be very fun too, but it requires a little bit of practice to efficiently interrupt other players however (and you probably want to swap in either Pistol and/or Mantra of Distraction at that point). Also try to mask your Illusionary Counter if you’re not already doing it. Chaos Armor can help disguise it a bit, or your stealth of course.

Vella Absconditus | Human Mesmer
Seafarer’s Rest

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

It’s what people would consider to be a “cheese”-type of build, but if it works for you and you find it fun, stick with it. Don’t let others dictate what you can and can’t enjoy.

You probably want to keep the Torch for your Prismatic Understanding, you could probably even toss out the Mantra of Resolve for Veil, to give yourself even more of a stealth upkeep (remember to enter it twice). You already got a lot of mitigation against conditions through the stealth, and with the current traits, you are removing several conditions from simply healing. Veil would allow you to be what feels like nearly permanently in and out of stealth to your opponents. It can be highly confusing if you re-position yourself well.

There’s nothing that I can see which are specifically flawed in your build. Perhaps you don’t need the Phantasmal Fury as much, but even that’s fine. Maybe you want to take a Sigil of Energy in there. I would fix that one white boot you’re wearing though, haha.

Most people will however, simply run away from you, and you may have noticed that. Nobody likes to fight a PU Mesmer, we all know the Mesmer profession can’t chase that well, and it’s less of a time sink, to simply run in a selected direction and lose them.

If you ever get a bit tired of the PU trait, give Chaotic Interruption a go perhaps. That can be very fun too, but it requires a little bit of practice to efficiently interrupt other players however (and you probably want to swap in either Pistol and/or Mantra of Distraction at that point). Also try to mask your Illusionary Counter if you’re not already doing it. Chaos Armor can help disguise it a bit, or your stealth of course.

Can you link any build with CI pls ? im interested in that build too xD but don t know what to change tnx a lot

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

nobody with other any opinion ?

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

I agree with Absconditus that phantasmal fury is not necessary – take 1200 blink instead.

Also not sure why you have an ascended soldier backpiece – if you can make a rabid one that would be better.

Otherwise there’s nothing wrong with it at all.

You can easily swap torch for pistol and then take CI instead of PU for a change of flavour whenever you like.

Edit: Oh I forgot – better to put torment sigil on staff instead of scepter – you’re already doing torment on scepter AA.

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

I agree with Absconditus that phantasmal fury is not necessary – take 1200 blink instead.

Also not sure why you have an ascended soldier backpiece – if you can make a rabid one that would be better.

Otherwise there’s nothing wrong with it at all.

You can easily swap torch for pistol and then take CI instead of PU for a change of flavour whenever you like.

Edit: Oh I forgot – better to put torment sigil on staff instead of scepter – you’re already doing torment on scepter AA.

where can i get a rabbid backpack if you can be nice plz ?

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_ascended_trinkets

Two from the mystic forge, a handful from stat selectable items – for example Light of Dwayna, if you can be bothered to craft those.

Mystic forge is easiest – just need enough gold for all the ancient bones and ectos.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

MailMail.6534

disclaimer: I’m a pvp purest, so I may not know the right strategies inherent in a WvW roaming format.

1) It looks a really interesting PU/Mantra hybrid. It’s nice.
2) There are several potential improvements I could suggest. The first is getting rid of MoR. You have plenty condi removal with the Mantra Heal, and considering in a bind you could use stealth to charge, I don’t see MoR being inherently necessary. Also, isn’t people running away an issue in roaming? You don’t have any control skills like pistol 5 or S.Domination. I’d suggest the latter in place of MoR. However, then I’d feel like your Mantra gm wouldn’t be worth it…

Alternatively, to keep with your usage of the Mantra gm, you could take MoD instead of MoR and then take the Bountiful Interruption instead of the Staff CD. The might will give boosts to your condi dmg as well as give you long lasting defensive boons.

Since you really can’t depend on your phantasms doing a lot of dmg even with the use of fury, I’d take away Phanstasmal Fury for Desperate Decoy, which will give you another stealth when you probably need it most.

3) There are better PU builds out there that you could use. Scepter/Pistol+Staff 0/4/6/0/4 would be nice, but this takes away the originality from your build using mantras.

Overall, you’ve got a great start. Most PU builds will be strong regardless when roaming, so you do have some flexibility. Good luck!!

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

disclaimer: I’m a pvp purest, so I may not know the right strategies inherent in a WvW roaming format.

1) It looks a really interesting PU/Mantra hybrid. It’s nice.
2) There are several potential improvements I could suggest. The first is getting rid of MoR. You have plenty condi removal with the Mantra Heal, and considering in a bind you could use stealth to charge, I don’t see MoR being inherently necessary. Also, isn’t people running away an issue in roaming? You don’t have any control skills like pistol 5 or S.Domination. I’d suggest the latter in place of MoR. However, then I’d feel like your Mantra gm wouldn’t be worth it…

Alternatively, to keep with your usage of the Mantra gm, you could take MoD instead of MoR and then take the Bountiful Interruption instead of the Staff CD. The might will give boosts to your condi dmg as well as give you long lasting defensive boons.

Since you really can’t depend on your phantasms doing a lot of dmg even with the use of fury, I’d take away Phanstasmal Fury for Desperate Decoy, which will give you another stealth when you probably need it most.

3) There are better PU builds out there that you could use. Scepter/Pistol+Staff 0/4/6/0/4 would be nice, but this takes away the originality from your build using mantras.

Overall, you’ve got a great start. Most PU builds will be strong regardless when roaming, so you do have some flexibility. Good luck!!

Some changes, some options,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQRArf8al0npBtlpxGNcrNyqxY6WOZlTtUpjI7AA-TVyCABAcQAwR9HsU+t8+DIcEAk4BAon+hxUCO9JAgQALmDA-w

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

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ooo Riddle’s changes looks very nice. ooo what a NASTY PU build that’d be with duelist. I forget Staff isn’t always necessary, especially in a roaming type situation where melee isn’t always what you should aim for.

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

IMO, I think you should swap PU out for Chaotic Interruption, You have enough stealth and condition damage that you could really make use of CI.

I have tried rabid builds, they’re not my cup of tea because enemies can just turn tail and run away from you and have a solid chance of escaping because staff clones and phants and torch clones and phants have such slow projectile speeds.

Running CI instead of PU would mean you can immobilize enemies to buy time for your conditions to take affect.

I’d also consider changing out the sigil of doom on your staff for a sigil of energy. you dont really need that much poison application, since Chaos Storm can do that for you. You would be better served getting the extra dodge-roll and be able to better position yourself while in the staff.

With as much stealth as you have, I think that you shouldnt really need the Mantra of Resolve AND the Harmonious mantra with healing mantra, while you have Mender’s Purity traited as well. If you ran 2 in Domination for Crippling Dissipation (would make your build the clone-death trifecta) then possibly running both mantras would be recommended because you’d have much more limited condition clearing, coming 100% from Mantra of Resolve. If you agree, you could swap out Mantra of Resolve for Mantra of Distraction if you’re up for the interrupts. I found interrupt builds worked fabulously while roaming.

My .02 though.

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

disclaimer: I’m a pvp purest, so I may not know the right strategies inherent in a WvW roaming format.

1) It looks a really interesting PU/Mantra hybrid. It’s nice.
2) There are several potential improvements I could suggest. The first is getting rid of MoR. You have plenty condi removal with the Mantra Heal, and considering in a bind you could use stealth to charge, I don’t see MoR being inherently necessary. Also, isn’t people running away an issue in roaming? You don’t have any control skills like pistol 5 or S.Domination. I’d suggest the latter in place of MoR. However, then I’d feel like your Mantra gm wouldn’t be worth it…

Alternatively, to keep with your usage of the Mantra gm, you could take MoD instead of MoR and then take the Bountiful Interruption instead of the Staff CD. The might will give boosts to your condi dmg as well as give you long lasting defensive boons.

Since you really can’t depend on your phantasms doing a lot of dmg even with the use of fury, I’d take away Phanstasmal Fury for Desperate Decoy, which will give you another stealth when you probably need it most.

3) There are better PU builds out there that you could use. Scepter/Pistol+Staff 0/4/6/0/4 would be nice, but this takes away the originality from your build using mantras.

Overall, you’ve got a great start. Most PU builds will be strong regardless when roaming, so you do have some flexibility. Good luck!!

Some changes, some options,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQRArf8al0npBtlpxGNcrNyqxY6WOZlTtUpjI7AA-TVyCABAcQAwR9HsU+t8+DIcEAk4BAon+hxUCO9JAgQALmDA-w

it s a nice build but i don t know if to remove my movement speed … for perplexity… i rly don t know what to do :\
pls help me decide a bit what to run

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

IMO, I think you should swap PU out for Chaotic Interruption, You have enough stealth and condition damage that you could really make use of CI.

I have tried rabid builds, they’re not my cup of tea because enemies can just turn tail and run away from you and have a solid chance of escaping because staff clones and phants and torch clones and phants have such slow projectile speeds.

Running CI instead of PU would mean you can immobilize enemies to buy time for your conditions to take affect.

I’d also consider changing out the sigil of doom on your staff for a sigil of energy. you dont really need that much poison application, since Chaos Storm can do that for you. You would be better served getting the extra dodge-roll and be able to better position yourself while in the staff.

With as much stealth as you have, I think that you shouldnt really need the Mantra of Resolve AND the Harmonious mantra with healing mantra, while you have Mender’s Purity traited as well. If you ran 2 in Domination for Crippling Dissipation (would make your build the clone-death trifecta) then possibly running both mantras would be recommended because you’d have much more limited condition clearing, coming 100% from Mantra of Resolve. If you agree, you could swap out Mantra of Resolve for Mantra of Distraction if you’re up for the interrupts. I found interrupt builds worked fabulously while roaming.

My .02 though.

Can you be nice and post me a CI build ? i was thinking to try something like this tnx a lot

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

disclaimer: I’m a pvp purest, so I may not know the right strategies inherent in a WvW roaming format.

1) It looks a really interesting PU/Mantra hybrid. It’s nice.
2) There are several potential improvements I could suggest. The first is getting rid of MoR. You have plenty condi removal with the Mantra Heal, and considering in a bind you could use stealth to charge, I don’t see MoR being inherently necessary. Also, isn’t people running away an issue in roaming? You don’t have any control skills like pistol 5 or S.Domination. I’d suggest the latter in place of MoR. However, then I’d feel like your Mantra gm wouldn’t be worth it…

Alternatively, to keep with your usage of the Mantra gm, you could take MoD instead of MoR and then take the Bountiful Interruption instead of the Staff CD. The might will give boosts to your condi dmg as well as give you long lasting defensive boons.

Since you really can’t depend on your phantasms doing a lot of dmg even with the use of fury, I’d take away Phanstasmal Fury for Desperate Decoy, which will give you another stealth when you probably need it most.

3) There are better PU builds out there that you could use. Scepter/Pistol+Staff 0/4/6/0/4 would be nice, but this takes away the originality from your build using mantras.

Overall, you’ve got a great start. Most PU builds will be strong regardless when roaming, so you do have some flexibility. Good luck!!

if you can be nice ill be very happy to see your 0/4/6/0/4 build tnx a lot

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWl0npRtlpxGNcrNyqxY6W25lTtUp3I7AA-TVyCABAcIAwR9j92fIMlgYp8TiHAge6Do4IAM9JAgQALmDA-w

CI instead of PU,
MoD instead of MoR
Energy Sigil on staff instead of Doom Sigil.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

MailMail.6534

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

EoLtheCroW.9176

can t find a build working im so kittened … if any more reccomands i w8 for your feedbacks

ty a lot

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Posted by: Shadowkiller.6725

Shadowkiller.6725

i’ve run this build in wvw a few times. nothing wrong with it. i just would like to point out MoR. while having Hamonious with Mender’s, MoH should be enough for condi cleansing. although it’s nice to have peace of mind from condi bursting i find that having MoR is overkill on condi cleansing and often leaves me open for attacks when charging.

i would swap MoR for MoD or MoS because it can cover my charging of MoH if stealth is not availiable. if you still want that piece of mind for condi bursting try null field instead. it will give you combo for chaos armor with torch or staff and more control over a fight

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Posted by: EoLtheCroW.9176

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nobody ? guys ?