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Posted by: Niujin.7429

Niujin.7429

I don’t get it guys.

I came back to gw2 after a 2 weeks pause and, reading everything I saw on our forums, I was uberscared and thinking “oh my god, I had choosen AGAIN the one and only class that is NEVER ok, always bugged, perma-nerfed and which everyone, devs included, hates.”

So I logged in to give it a few tries, just to see with my own eyes.
Didn’t change anything at all, I kept everything I had setup as it was before the 15th of november (illusion based build Sword+Pistol/GS) and played a few sPvP matches.

Turns out I got scared for nothing. Everything felt absolutely ok, not overpowered nor nerfed, I had enjoyed some 1v1 as well as 1v2 fights and all I noticed is that, if anything, thieves and warriors do not oneshot me anymore in 1,5 seconds.

Sure, the iZerker (these names are stupid, they remind me of apple products) bug is kinda annoying, although it felt almost trivial, rather than an incredible drawback in our playstyle.

About not being able to cast clones out of LoS (despite the fact that it was an unfair advantage) the only annoying thing here is that they go on their full CD if they fail to land.

Anyway, try to keep this post clean with constructive criticism and avoid massive pointless whines that are of no help to anyone.

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Posted by: Ayanavi.1904

Ayanavi.1904

Countless other threads regarding this exact same thing over the past several days, and you thought it was a good idea to make another one containing your specific opinion on the matter?

Why. This isn’t going to change other people’s minds, it’s going to be another thread that goes the exact same route as the other threads with nearly the exact same sentiments, further populating the Mesmer forum sub-section with “It’s not so bad guys”, “lololshouldhaverolledshatter”, “welp, time to reroll”, “fix this now!” and a bunch of non-mesmers going “lol mesmer got nerfed. trolfaec.”

The bug isn’t the end of the world – I think all of us are aware of this. However, it is a major and unexpected problem that followed on the tail end of a bug fix which left the Mesmer at large nearly useless in WvW sieges. Outrage is an understandable reaction to it – Regardless of it’s actual severity. It’s the proverbial icing on the cake.

Hence why you see so much QQ, and not a bunch of “oh welp, time to adapt”.

For that matter – sPvP people are the LAST ones we want to hear about the Mesmer profession’s competency from. It’s the PvE and WvW sections of the profession that are seriously ticked over this, not the precious e-sporters.

It’s still viable in PvE, but it’s yet ANOTHER bug in the face of any phantasm build, alongside our phantasm traits still not stacking properly.

It was our only actual siege skill in WvW that let us contribute to taking for/tower walls. with the bug gone (and rightfully fixed, no one is debating this), we’re left completely at a loss for what ELSE we’re supposed to do that’s any sort of siege contribution.

but sPvP? Oh no – sPvP has been the source of pretty much every nerf this profession has gotten. We most definitely do not need someone come in from the sPvP crowd and go “hey guys, we’re still okay!”

Because ‘okay’ for Mesmer in sPvP inevitably means Anet didn’t manage to ‘fix’ us yet.

God kittening knows we do not need anymore ‘fixing’ from the sPvPers.

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Posted by: Sobex.5210

Sobex.5210

@niujin.

No one said izerker was a drawback to our playstyle. it is not working as intended. point blank. that is why they have even came out saying its being fixed.

The problem with no casting/full CD on LOS, isnt that we cannot cast on LOS but it is because LOS doesnt work correctly! leaves on the ground should not break my sight. this isnt a mesmer problem its an engine problem, as every class has it. the only problem with ours is, we dont just lose an attack over it. we lose, debuffs, boons, bleeds, multiple attacks, including mind wrack. we cannot use COC for debuffs, daze, or evade. dodges, blinds, LOS, and blocks now prevent all of this. we dont lose an attack we lose ALOT of utility, and thats not including everything our illusions can do.

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Posted by: Niujin.7429

Niujin.7429

@Ayanavi
I am sorry, I was not aware of the WvW status as I never played it. Not having the time to level or even farm my character, I sticked to the most affordable form of PvP available, thus the meaning of this post.

May I ask why the chance to cast phantasms out of LoS was so needed for the mesmer in WvW?

@Sobex, yeah I see your point, even tho I never experienced foliage breaking los (or did and never noticed), you’re right.

On a side note, what the flop is CoC? I suck with acronyms

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Posted by: Odaman.8359

Odaman.8359

@Ayanavi
I am sorry, I was not aware of the WvW status as I never played it. Not having the time to level or even farm my character, I sticked to the most affordable form of PvP available, thus the meaning of this post.

May I ask why the chance to cast phantasms out of LoS was so needed for the mesmer in WvW?

@Sobex, yeah I see your point, even tho I never experienced foliage breaking los (or did and never noticed), you’re right.

On a side note, what the flop is CoC? I suck with acronyms

Because walls have little lips at the edge that make using normal straight line, non ground target abilities very difficult if not impossible. Since our only real damage that is ground targeted is mind stab we used zerker as a crutch. We still manage, but we’re not attacking anything on the wall other than idiots who jump on the lips.

Odaman 80 Mesmer
Maguuma

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Posted by: Kaiyanwan.8521

Kaiyanwan.8521

I will be honest, no trolling intended:

If a main damage skill of your weapon combo is (unintentially) nerfed by 60% and you cannot see a difference, you may have never been playing seriously.
Maybe it’s not so important for you in arena style PvP, but it clearly effects PvE and Wv3.

Just try to see the game as a whole, not only the part that you play, if you want to make a general statement.

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Posted by: MaXi.3642

MaXi.3642

If a main damage skill of your weapon combo is (unintentially) nerfed by 60% and you cannot see a difference, you may have never been playing seriously..

i dont play mesmer right now, so i only read patch notes… what exactly nerfed mesmers dmg by 60% in PVE/WVW? :-OOO

i thing that most dps mesmer get with 3 phantasmal warlocks up all time, they hit like truck with cd of +-7sec, not worth shattering/resummoning them if boss dont attacks them imo

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Posted by: Sarcasmic.6741

Sarcasmic.6741

Phantasmal Berserker inexplicably had its damage reduced by what comes out to be about 60%, although stated nowhere in the patch notes.

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