Guild Wars 2

The new diamond skin works so that ele remove 1 prexisting condi when they are hit above 75% max health.

As a result of this. Each four person shatter could potentially counts as 1-4 hits. And each hit removes the oldest condi. So depending on which shatter you use. You will only damage them with torment or confusion, not both, as one stack will be constantly removed by each shatter hitting.

Has anyway theorycrafted the best order to shatter?

Pretty sure it’s got a 1s icd, so you’re not gonna be proccing 4 hits with a 4 clone shatter.

Fay.2357:

Pretty sure it’s got a 1s icd, so you’re not gonna be proccing 4 hits with a 4 clone shatter.

Worse case scenario is when you are moving and juking clones.

Daniel Handler.4816:

Worse case scenario is when you are moving and juking clones.

If you’re setting up your illusions to hit the ele with 1s+ gaps between each other so that trait procs, you should either be not worrying about a silly diamond skin ele because that’s mad complex shatter setup for one enemy, or you might want to get better at shatter-bursting with mesmer, cuz in any burst that trait won’t do crap when they get hit by 8 illusions in the span of a couple seconds.

Spanny.9256:

Daniel Handler.4816:

Worse case scenario is when you are moving and juking clones.

If you’re setting up your illusions to hit the ele with 1s+ gaps between each other so that trait procs, you should either be not worrying about a silly diamond skin ele because that’s mad complex shatter setup for one enemy, or you might want to get better at shatter-bursting with mesmer, cuz in any burst that trait won’t do crap when they get hit by 8 illusions in the span of a couple seconds.

Illusions + phantasms. If you’re talking a sinister setup you can potentialy destory the 4k hp to debunk diamond skin, then let the condi’s do their thing. Cleanses withstanding.

Daniel Handler.4816:

Fay.2357:

Pretty sure it’s got a 1s icd, so you’re not gonna be proccing 4 hits with a 4 clone shatter.

Worse case scenario is when you are moving and juking clones.

Does it really matter? As long as he is above 75% he will be healed 1s later anyway. I don’t see condition Mesmers having much luck here. You got to be at least hybrid.

I get that the change to DS was quite a nerf. However, it still is extremly powerful against classes who can’t dish out a huge amount of conditions and more importantly: different conditions. Elementalists seem to ignore that because all they can see is Necromancers.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Illusions + phantasms. If you’re talking a sinister setup you can potentialy destory the 4k hp to debunk diamond skin, then let the condi’s do their thing. Cleanses withstanding.

You mean the scenario where the Elementalist doesn’t fight back and heals himself?

Or are you talking about your Rifle Mesmer again?

Generally, I had been finding ele’s easier when playing condi shatter since the Tuesday patch. Last night, however, I ran into an ele where I really had trouble getting him down. I haven’t looked through the video yet to see the issue, but my guess is that I just didn’t queue up the cc to follow the direct damage push

For sure, playing a build that only has three primary conditions, it’s not a quick fight.

Xaylin.1860:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Illusions + phantasms. If you’re talking a sinister setup you can potentialy destory the 4k hp to debunk diamond skin, then let the condi’s do their thing. Cleanses withstanding.

You mean the scenario where the Elementalist doesn’t fight back and heals himself?

Or are you talking about your Rifle Mesmer again? ;)

I confess, Rifle is the quick and easy way to shave off that health threshold to allow the condi floodgates to bust open XD