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Posted by: Zlater.6789

Zlater.6789

Hi guys I am in a pretty lucky spot, chrono is not my biggest love so my legendary armour went elsewhere, however because of the addition of legendary armour to pvp I got a free stat swap on all of my ardent glorious gear on my chrono.

Although it’s not my favourite class it is one of my most used being one of the only people in my social group who does chrono lol. Anyway I wanna play it but I don’t wanna because I have this once in a life time free stat swap on my leadership gear and qT is taking their sweet time xD

So whatever I’ll just make it myself.
This is what I came up with:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAs8encfCFohlfC+fCUrhlVjq+Yb2ptcDGhAAdLOjqA-TBSBQBXU5AAOJAWS9nJ+AA43+DkUJ490LISlcBAOA+tvx3gzP/8zP/8+93f/93fLFgX7qA-e

There is a few things to note, this build is limiting and sorta difficult to play for a few reasons:
1. I am using Danger Time, I have used this for a few months in encounters, with the exception of a few bosses or groups where keeping up quickness or alac can be a little bit annoying.
2. Anyone who has played illusions/domination knows how stressful it can be, this is pretty much the same thing.

Saying that there is actually no reason not to slot domination or inspiration if you need it if you are satisfied losing the juicy dps.

The Boon Duration is like this:
1. Default with full buffs including pinpoint distribution: 100.65%
2. Default without pinpoint distribution: 100.06%
3. Without compounding Power (if you want dom or insp or both): 100.06%
4. Without compounding Power and Pinpoint Distribution (if you want dom or insp or both): 99.45%

You’ll noticed I used valk a lot, that was just because I am also using danger time so you will be way over stacked on precision, if you don’t feel comfortable with danger time just yet though you can just change in zerk/ assassins where I put valk. To note dueling will net you more blurred frenzies because of fencer’s finesse and more alacrity from phantasmal haste.

You’ll also notice that the trait tooltips, utility and food have not been updated on gw2skills.net.

I went for Toxic Maintenance, I just feel like it totally swamps the rest. The only other other ones worth thinking about is Peppermint Oil for some minstrels/magi nonsense or the Magnanimous Maintenance Oil for a full tank. EVEN in those circumstances I think they might still be useless because the buff from other sources like might or banners will make Toxic better yet.

Problems with this build:
This is one thing I struggle with and I cannot be sure until I try it, is what would be better Illusions or Domination? Because you need Conti Split to keep quickness up it means your illusions will be losing a lot of phantasmal force, this might mean that domination will do more damage in the perfect comp. After observing other dps parses of chrono vs mesmer and from my previous experience, I however feel like domination will be comparable to illusions, except that it will be more difficult to maintain alacrity, and more difficult to survive. Probably doesn’t really matter because you swap on the go anyway xD

Well if you have any advice or anything you would recommend changing please let me know, I am not an authority on build crafting, I am just looking for advice.

edit: For varying your toughness to another chrono’s you can just have 1 use nopalitos and the other golden dumplings or whatever. You can even use soldiers trinkets or gear if want to go even higher.

(edited by Zlater.6789)

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

Your boon share suffers from not having Illusionary Inspiration.

Domination adds Blurred Inscriptions for distortion share.

I get what you are trying to do, which is essentially replace one of the current chronos with a version which provides slightly more damage. Not sure that will work though. You’d have to do some golem trials and see what your actual boon and alacrity uptime is.

You are looking at dps loss from a purely selfish viewpoint (aka only how it affects you) when you should be asking how much the raid loses from not having near 100% uptime on quickness and alacrity and the possibility for distrotion of mechanics.

At the same time if you are competing for a dps spot you have way to much utility sloted which will reduce your damage versus other dps.

Even with Danger Time, I doubt you are caping crit chance thus Valkyrie is not recommended.

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Posted by: Kadj.6725

Kadj.6725

If you aren’t running Lost Time alongside Danger Time, I’m willing to bet your DPS is substantially lower than just about any other alternative. Even firing Time Warp and Well of Action twice via Continuum Split won’t chain effects together, and adding four blocks via shield might get you a little bit further but when you have three iSwordsmen out and at max damage% you really don’t want to overwrite them.

Your non-chrono lines have some promise when Mirage comes out, but otherwise I… don’t see this build making waves, sorry.

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Posted by: Zlater.6789

Zlater.6789

OK we did some testing and it would apear toxic maintenence oil is NOT affected by any stat bonuses that do not come from gear, this mean this build will not be at 100% boon duration, I’m going to make an edit later to fix it later as it will need more commanders.

@cyninja.2954 Danger time you don’t need to run, if you are not skilled with chrono and you cannot keep up alacrity by yourself then if is not recommended, in that case run berserker instead of Valk in which case you should be using inspiration as I said above. With valk and danger the original build critical chance was overcapped at 99.85%, please remember that gw2skills.net has not made accommodations for the latest balance pass.

@kadj.6725 you should never run lost time, never. Lost time is a waste of time because you will always have 100% uptime of slow on bosses. That’s because the minimum 4 iavengers that you should have up in your squad will keep it up for you.

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

I still think you are focusing way to much on your personal boon duration without accomodating for actual boon share.

Running commanders and leadership runes is basically what current chronos are using post patch to get to 100% boon duration. All you are doing at the moment is try to fit in some more damage traits instead of support traits by switching to the new trait lines.

The very best result you’ll get is a chrono which:

a.) does not provide distortion. Works fine for low skill raid play

b.) has significantly less boon share from missing Inspiration. Not an issue as long as 100% quickness is guaranteed to the raid (or cap depending on what the raid boss allows)

c.) has significantly less damage than a damage mesmer specifically designed for that role

So you migh end up with a non-distorting (not needed but it will cost time) less boon sharing chronomancer who due to suboptimal gear for damage (and has to shatter often) maybe hits 15-20k at best.

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Posted by: Kadj.6725

Kadj.6725

@kadj.6725 you should never run lost time, never. Lost time is a waste of time because you will always have 100% uptime of slow on bosses. That’s because the minimum 4 iavengers that you should have up in your squad will keep it up for you.

Or you could run lost time while a chrono with a better build carries the rest of your group.

You’re still ignoring cyninja’s comment that you aren’t getting enough Quickness on everyone by dropping Illusions/Illusionary Inspiration.

I just figured if you weren’t going to go for that argument, you’d at least go for the more specialized dps argument…

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Posted by: Prime Shock.9386

Prime Shock.9386

quick back of the envelope calculations has magnanimous maintenance oil outperforming toxic maintenance oil with your build. magnanimous will get you about 88 concentration, toxic will get you about 28.