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Posted by: ToplessKillerr.4637

ToplessKillerr.4637

I get that it can be a tool to carry and portal people to the top of jumping puzzles. But what about Portal in sPvP and WvW makes it so overpowered?

I’m very new to PvP as a Mesmer, so any help and insight is appreciated!

Thanks.

*Edit: spelling and stuff.

(edited by ToplessKillerr.4637)

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Posted by: Disig.7169

Disig.7169

Well I know one reason at least, we can glitch ourselves into a wall and constantly make a location “under attack” so if an enemy has a garrison with a waypoint they can’t use it because it is “under attack”

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Ok, glitches aside….

In sPvP it allows for a mesmer to cover two points at once. He can cap, drop portal, leave for the next position, and when the location comes under threat portal back etc.

In WvW you can portal your team inside a keep, or move a major flank right onto an enemies front line in the blink of an eye. In WvW we have culling issues, and that has resulted in what’s been called “portal bombing”. Players will portal in and not appear on their enemies screen, leading to wipes before they even render.

General gameplay will allow me, as a mes, to drop a portal and charge off to fight some random/s. If the fight doesnt go in my favor I can drop my portal and escape to safety. This is a legit use. The others are too but due to various issues, they’ve altered aspects of gameplay in various unsettling ways :/

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Posted by: Wise.8025

Wise.8025

If it were just about covering 2 points then I call bullkitten. Thief can do that and on a much shorter CD (30s) and a much larger range (10,000). It’s about moving multiple people around the map allowing people to pop through a portal kitten face and pop back through. Of course portal says it lasts for 20s but in reality it only stays open for 10s due to our glamours all having only half of their stated durations.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

I thought it didn’t feel like 20s when portal was being used… lol… Do we know if they are going to increase our glamour durations with all these fixes?

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Posted by: Wise.8025

Wise.8025

@jportell Eventually that is my hope. My fear is that they will just change the tooltip to read the half life duration of the skills and say “This is what is balanced”

I am also hoping they will compensate mesmer with a movement speed skill since they’re going to be handing what once was unique to mesmer as our “mobility”.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Yeah this has seriously kitten me off… We have no reliable way to gain speed buffs. Hell even engineers can have CONSTANT swiftness on kit swaps in the adept trait line. We have to go all the way in grandmaster to get our focus skills reduced to give us longer speed buffs. cuz well Signet of Insp can suck it.

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Posted by: Richard Nixon.6573

Richard Nixon.6573

People whine about mesmers because we have portal and time warp, two unique abilities that work exponentially better in group play than just for ourselves. And since they are so unique, people want them nerfed to ground, removed, or given to other classes to stop the “monopoly” we have on these abilities.

One reason they are so strong is because we dont have to trait for either of them to be effective- it only takes up one utility/our elite, and its as good as any other mesmer’s. That means it can be run with any build, as long as it is a mesmer.

People seem to forget that our class has been constantly nerfed due to this, making a mesmer a lackluster choice for any role other than portal/time warp. If we lose these, or lose the monopolies we have on these group abilities, expect a huge decline in mesmer popularity in pvp- there wouldn’t be a single thing we can do that another class can do way better.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Which is something all the PvP qq mesmer threads seem to ignore…

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

Darnis.4056

I don’t know.. I’m terrible at portal, but it essentially allows you to be in two places at once, ever minute and a half…

You not only have to be watching the node icon at all times, but keeping the cooldown in your head.. and sometimes it just outright fails for no reason(Possibly a meter or two distance makes the difference)

I hate the portal because I feel like people force me to play it, I don’t like playing it it’s not fun for me, and this is why I generally don’t play in teams with a matron/patriarch figure.

I personally hope it’s nerfed, given to other professions or altogether deleted.

I’m mobile enough as it is, I have a focus, I have good swiftness uptime, I don’t need to give up nullfield for a gimmicky ability which allows people to get me to half health before the fight begins unless I pop distortion prior to entering, and then get destroyed by a thief.

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Posted by: Wise.8025

Wise.8025

I don’t know.. I’m terrible at portal, but it essentially allows you to be in two places at once, ever minute and a half…

You not only have to be watching the node icon at all times, but keeping the cooldown in your head.. and sometimes it just outright fails for no reason(Possibly a meter or two distance makes the difference)

I hate the portal because I feel like people force me to play it, I don’t like playing it it’s not fun for me, and this is why I generally don’t play in teams with a matron/patriarch figure.

I personally hope it’s nerfed, given to other professions or altogether deleted.

I’m mobile enough as it is, I have a focus, I have good swiftness uptime, I don’t need to give up nullfield for a gimmicky ability which allows people to get me to half health before the fight begins unless I pop distortion prior to entering, and then get destroyed by a thief.

And you obviously do not play on a set team. If you don’t like running portal tell your thief to run Ambush. It’s a self teleport with a range of 10,000 and a CD of 35s. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RUN PORTAL, and you never have needed to and you do not need to encourage the skill being nerfed into the ground just because you don’t care to use it. Just don’t run it. Tell your group they need better mobility for roaming etc. Thief and Ele won’t complain. It only takes them a matter of seconds to traverse most maps.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

Thief has a skill that allows them to pop back to any point on the map they marked. They also have a 25% speed boon.

The real reason people QQ about mes is because they get into a fight with one, see a bunch of clones, then proceed to freak out and get facerolled.

They find it easier to cry about mes rather than learn to play.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

Darnis.4056

And you obviously do not play on a set team. If you don’t like running portal tell your thief to run Ambush. It’s a self teleport with a range of 10,000 and a CD of 35s. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RUN PORTAL, and you never have needed to and you do not need to encourage the skill being nerfed into the ground just because you don’t care to use it. Just don’t run it. Tell your group they need better mobility for roaming etc. Thief and Ele won’t complain. It only takes them a matter of seconds to traverse most maps.

I don’t, you never have to actually run anything, but people will get mad if you don’t.
I feel ostracized for not playing how others want me to, and/or failing to run a mechanic I’m not good at exploiting. I didn’t roll mesmer to be point defender-lite at all times.

Mesmer is a strong offensive class with decent mobility, even without portal we still have access to 12 seconds of swiftness and a teleport every 8 seconds.

I’m not encouraging portal to be nerfed, but I couldn’t care less if it does.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

I would prefer that portal got rebuffed especially now that they HAVE confirmed it will be a mechanic that other classes have access to. Its a great get out of jail free card for us and other classes in the game already have much better mobility but I think a necro portal type thing would be cool since they are obviously very neglected.

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