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New Weapons
Maind hand dagger, pistol, whip, I actually just want sverything :O
And in some other article they said they were adding all weapons to all professions too C:
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Whip would be ok, a Dagger – not really. Pistol main hand ok with that.
BUT WHY IS THERE THAT ARTWORK AND NO FAN!?!?
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and why no fan ?
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and why no fan ?
I like the idea of using Fans as Weapons!
As for expanding existing weapons:
- MH focus
- OH Shield
- MH Pistol
New weapons … probably
- Knuckles/ Fists
- Instruments
- Books
MH focus sound weird kinda. Can’t image this :o But I think it would be interesting to give the mesmer a shield aswell instruments.
Claws would be awesome for thiefs and necros.
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I would like a fan C:
A character in Assassin’s Creed multiplayer uses a fan, and its amazing :o. she’s not a Mesmer, but oh well.
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Fans can look pretty awesome, especially with some dancing like moves.
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MH Whip + OH Chair = Lion Phantasm
You know you’d play it.
Knuckle weapon that lets the Mesmer conjure illusionary fists to attack from mid-range (600m). With good CC capability in the form of pushes and pulls, maybe an AoE “ground pound” type blast and a phantasm that pulls enemies in and punches them.
I want a Fan as well.
Another weapon that might be cool for magic casters would be to have a Familiar. For a Familiar weapon, then animal would likely be small like a cat, bird, ferret, bat, or snake. When “stowed” they would be riding on your shoulder or arm. When in combat they’d be running or flying along side you. Unlike a Ranger pet, your Familiar is simply a weapon and its skills would be where the weapon skills would be. Some familiars could be 2H weapons while others could be 1H.
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For a Familiar weapon, then animal would likely be small like a cat, bird, ferret, bat, or snake. When “stowed” they would be riding on your shoulder or arm. When in combat they’d be running or flying along side you. Unlike a Ranger pet, your Familiar is simply a weapon and its skills would be where the weapon skills would be. Some familiars could be 2H weapons while others could be 1H.
This would be amazing. MH Sword or Pistol with OH Raven? YES PLEASE!
I want a Fan as well.
Another weapon that might be cool for magic casters would be to have a Familiar. For a Familiar weapon, then animal would likely be small like a cat, bird, ferret, bat, or snake. When “stowed” they would be riding on your shoulder or arm. When in combat they’d be running or flying along side you. Unlike a Ranger pet, your Familiar is simply a weapon and its skills would be where the weapon skills would be. Some familiars could be 2H weapons while others could be 1H.
I want a 2 handed cat :D
- [Chain skill] pounce pounce at your foe to damage and cripple them
Claw Claw at your foe to damage and bleed them
Claw claw at your foe to damage and bleed them - [cooldown 10] flurry rapidly claw your foe 8 times, crippling and blinding on the first strike, if foe is crippled, immobilize instead. Each claw torments.
- [cooldown 15, clone, chain] Illusionary ambush blind your foe, and block for 3 seconds. If your owner (the mesmer) is attacked, stealth them for 1 second and create a clone. if you are attacked, create an illusionary cat to knockback and confuse your attacker, and then turns in a clone.
Illusionary sacrifice Break your block to stun yourself and daze your foe. - [cooldown 20, combo blast]Cat Leap leap over your foe while striking them for cripple. when you land, create an explosion that confuses and torments nearby foes.
- [cooldown 20, illusion] Phantasmal kitten summon a Phantasmal Kitten that shoots a giant purple laser that causes torment, cripple and CATastrophic damage on it’s target, while confusing nearby foes and being adorable while doing so.
Yea, it’s overpowered, but that’s the fun part :D.
I’d also figure a familiar cat cant be furter than 900 units away from you, but sticks around at 300. In combat, it does damage per second you if you go further than 300 away :o.
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I posted this a while ago. Might as well, show my ideas yet again.
My suggestions are based on a mix of popular demand, need for niche weapons and to go well with each profession theme. So here we go:
New types of weapons:
- Polearms: like spears, halberds, lances, etc. – 2H melee with good cleave radius
- Fist weapons: like katars, wristblades, gauntlets, etc. – MH/OH melee very high damage with extremely close range, and no cleave
- Whips: MH melee AoE with low dmg but high CC capability
New weapons for each profession:
Warrior:
- Polearm (2H)
- Fist weapon (MH/OH)
Guardian:
- MH Shield: 1200 ranged throwing autoattack
- Fist weapon (MH/OH)
Engineer:
- Hammer (2H)
- Fist weapons (MH)
Ranger:
- Polearm (2H)
- Whip (MH)
Thief:
- Fist weapon (MH/OH)
- Whip (MH)
Necromancer:
- Torch (OH)
- Fist weapon (MH)
Mesmer:
- Pistol (MH)(ranged 900, 1200 traited)
- Whip (MH)
Elementalist:
- Sword (MH)
- Torch (OH)
@ Alissah: having a feline weapon will inevitably need a canine counterpart too, because Anet has to “balance” the game.
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whip mh and oh
whipe and pistol, or sword and whip!
Now remove the Shield MH throw and make it a bit more realistic. A 2h Shield for Guards would be nice, ultimate defense
And put “fan” to the mesmer list, NOW!!
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MH Shield?
…
I can only think of this:
On second thought, I want to take two wheels.
What? Why?
So I can dual-wield shields! That’s, like, double the armor class!
Whip would be awesome, I’d want to dual wield them though. A one hand ranged option other than Scepter would be great to, like a Pistol.
OH Chair.. I love this one..
OH Shield
- Phantasmal Sentinel (attacks target with shield bash)
- Wave? (blast finisher)
Honestly, I just want a more accessible blast finisher. Fire field wouldn’t be too bad either.
Illusionary Defender? Ever heared of it? If it wouldn’t take an utility slot it would be awesome …
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Mh Pistol !!
1 – some autoattack that apply vulnerability
2 – thieves unload/iDuelist unload, on simmilar cd as blurred frenzy
3 – some sort of blink ability, like phase retreat with clone generator OR some attack that cripple, blind and apply lets say 5stack of confusion
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I 100% wuv everything keenlam said in his post.
I think shields are cool, but only if they are small. Bucklers/wristguards etc is just so unloved by designers, out of convenience probably.
Personally I’d love to see the Mesmer using Playing-Cards as weapons just like Gambit.
Gambit: Trailer 1
Gambit: Trailer 2
Gambit: Trailer 3Like a Stage-Illusionist the Mesmer would produce Cards and Card-Fans from thin air to throw them at his opponents.
Angela Funovits – Arcane Style
Magician Angela Funovits Card Manipulation
Amazing Magic Tricks All In ONE
Return – Kent
Some very basic ideas for Card-Skills:
This could be weapon-skills; but also utilty-skills.
After these are just some basic ideas I left out the Illusions.
This is just to illustrate some different skills, based on Cards, Card-Techniques and Card-Flourishes!
- Arcane-Cards:
Arcane Deck
With his right hand the Mesmer produces one Single-Card from his Arcane-Cards-Deck and throws it at his opponent. The target as well as nearby enemies suffer x damage.
In addition to that the Memser has a chance of 40% to produce a second Card with his left hand, dealing additional 25% of the basic-damage.
- Birdy-Fan:
Cradle to Grave Demo video – Birdy-Fan at 1:40
The Mesmer produces a Fan that bounces between enemies and dealing damage.
Afterwards the Fan flies back to the Mesmer granding one stack of Might for each enemy hit.
- Reflecting Split-Fans:
How to do card flourishes – S Fan
Up to 5 seconds the Mesmer holds a S-Fan in his hands to block the next attack. 50% of the incomming damage will be reflect back to the attacker.
-> Flying-Fans:
Even iff no attack was blocked, the Mesmer throws both Fans almost simultaneously onto his target. Each Fan deals x damage.
- Shuriken-Blades:
Shuriken Card by Eldo – Trick
Shuriken Card by Eldo
The Mesmer throws, alternately with his right and left hand, rotating cards that bounces between enemies and dealing damage.
Critical hits causes Bleeding.
- Orbit-Fan:
Orbit Spread – Bill Perkins
The Mesmer throws an Orbit-Fan onto his target, causing damage to his target and all enemies, it passes through.
- Split-Spades:
The Split-Spades-Symbol appears in the air, rushing down to the target and dealing damage to the target an nearby enemies.
Enemies hit, will loose one boon.
- Tornado-Cut:
Tornado-Cut
A card appears in front of the Mesmer.
One corner of the card touches the ground; the opposite corner points into the air so that the card diagonal right angles to the ground. While the card is spinning arround their diagonal a Tornado arises and moves from enemy to enemy, dealing damage.
- Shuriken-Cards:
Shuriken Card by Eldo – Trick
Shuriken Card by Eldo
Each 0,4 seconds the Mesmer throws, alternately with his right and left hand, a total of 5 rotating cards at his opponent. Each card deals damage to the target and neararby enemies and pushes them back.
- Fan-Lift:
The Mesmer lets a Card-Fan rotate in his hands, so that enemies in front of him are spun into the air. Affected enemies have to endure in air for 3 seconds.
-> Gravity:
As long as the enemies levitates in air, they can be forced back to ground by Gravity, suffering damage and are crippled for 3 seconds.
- Upward-Spring:
Virtuoso: The Spring
The Mesmer springs all 52 cards upwards into the air where they fly in a high arc to rush down to the target, dealing damage to the target and nearby enemies.
- Back-Flip / Forward-Spring:
Virtuoso: The Spring
The Mesmer springs all 52 cards forward in a straight line onto his target which sufffers damage.
While doing so, the Mesmer teleports / rushes backwards.
- Card-Trap:
The Mesmer summons a card on the ground at the selected area.
When enemies come close, the cards will straighten up and shoot Chaos-Beams (up to 10 times each) at the targets, dealing damage.
There can be up to 3 Card-Traps active simultaneously.
Lasts 15 seconds.
- Anaconda:
Anaconda by Bone Ho
bone-Anaconda
The Mesmer summons a Card-Anaconda at the selected area that spits Chaos-Orbs, which explode on impact, causing damage to enemies near the explosion.
Lasts 15 seconds.
- Waterfall:
Waterfall Card Flourish Tutorial
Angel Beneath the waterfall tutorial
Call down Waterfalls onto the selected area.
- Cobra-Cut:
De’vo’s cobra cut preview
Cobra
Bone Ho – King Cobra Cut
The Mesmer summons a deck of cards, which is open on one of the long sides, just like an opened snake mouth, flying from enemy to enemy, dealing damage.
Afterwards, the Cobra-Deck will fly back to the Mesmer, healing him for 50% of the total damage done.
- Tornado-Cut:
52 Cards revolve around the Mesmer in a wide radius.
Enemies within the the card-circle suffer damage each 0,5 seconds and are chilled for 3 seconds.
Enemies directly hit by the cards suffer more damage each 0,5 seconds and are immobilized for 1 second.
- Thunderbird – 1, 2, 3, 4 Aces:
Lee Asher- Thunderbird
Virtuoso: Thunderbird Ace Production
Thunderbird- Ace production
The 4 Aces appear and rotate clockwise around the Mesmer for 6 seconds.
In doing so, each Ace blocks one attack.
After each block an Ace will be destroyed.
As long as at least one Ace is active the Mesmer receives Retaliation. - -> Flying-Aces:
All remaining Aces will fly towards your enemy, dealing enormous damage. Each Ace will afflict one stack of Confusion to the target.
I 100% wuv everything keenlam said in her post.
I think shields are cool, but only if they are small. Bucklers/wristguards etc is just so unloved by designers, out of convenience probably. :)
Fixed that for you.
I also agree with everything, especially the canine weapons. Instead of red vs blue, dogs vs cats in pvp :D
Heres some skill ideas for dogs:
- claw claw your target, and deal mediocre damage.
claw claw again, dealing the same pitiful damage you just did, again.
bite attack with a final, embarassingly ineffective bite. - [CD 4] growl growl at your foe, and give them fury and might.
[stealth attack] bark let out an ear piercing bark that does damage and severely annoys nearby foes and allies. If those affected are dogs, they automatically bark back. - [CD 10, clone] illusionary drool summon an illusionary pug to pounce and knockdown your foe, and drool on them. Gain stealth.
- [CD 15] sniff sniff a nearby target, applying vulnerability to them. Has a chance to be at an innapropriate spot, which makes them feel awkward or embarassed, applying more vulnerability and fury.
- [CD 20] phantasmal dog whisperer summon a phantasmal dog whisperer, that summons pugs to knockdown and drool on it’s target and nearby foes.
I tried keeping it fairly realistic, what do you think :P?
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Illusionary Drool … lawls
That’s awesome.
Personally I’d love to see the Mesmer using Playing-Cards as weapons just like Gambit.
I’d be all over that. Playing cards as a weapon, hell yes.
Personally I’d love to see the Mesmer using Playing-Cards as weapons just like Gambit.
I’d be all over that. Playing cards as a weapon, hell yes.
That’s nice to hear.
I hope you also like my skill suggestions.
Some very basic ideas for Card-Skills:
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I personally can’t imagine cards as weapons because of two reason:
1. They are too small. You can’t make many different skins for them and most off the time you would hold them in a hand even less appealing than focus right now.
2. I can’t imagine any card related illusions.
Fans on the other hand are more likely. They could be wind themed and open up some interesting new options. Anet didn’t create any fan like looking focus probably to have this option.
Cards would be cool, but ye.. they would be difficult to make different skins for.
Fans, sure.
I’m thinking maybe mainhand books?
Though, the ideas I have in mind are really close to Guardian.
A 2 handed book that summons different illusion weapons to attack enemies/buff allies whatever you want.
I personally can’t imagine cards as weapons because of two reason:
1. They are too small.
The size of the cards should not be a problem, as you can scale them.
Moreover for magic there are also bigger cards (giant or jumbo cards) available.
Cards would be cool, but ye.. they would be difficult to make different skins for.
Different skins and card-animations:
I personally think, that the Mesmer should not hold the playing cards as weapons in his hand.
Make it more magic!
Instead he should let the playing cards and card fans appear in his hands, right before he throws them.
For skins different colours could be used.
- Blood-Metal-Deck: red cards.
- Inferno-Deck: yellow/orange cards
- Arcane-Cards-Deck: purple cards
…
It would also be possible to use different card symbols (like an Ace or the Spades-Symbol) that might light up on the back of the Mesmers hand.
Also, the Mesmer could permanently be circled by cards or card symbols.
2. I can’t imagine any card related illusions.
For Card-Illusions or Card-Skills also see my other postings.
Some very basic ideas for Card-Skills:
2. I can’t imagine any card related illusions.
A Phantasmal Joker might look like this:
Hammer. With a phantasm that does earthshaker every 10ish seconds
Hammer. With a phantasm that does earthshaker every 10ish seconds
I so want a 2h hammer.
Playing cards also sound amazing, but thinking perhaps could simply be a skin for MH and OH focus?
Mh Pistol !!
1 – some autoattack that apply vulnerability
2 – thieves unload/iDuelist unload, on simmilar cd as blurred frenzy
3 – some sort of blink ability, like phase retreat with clone generator OR some attack that cripple, blind and apply lets say 5stack of confusion
I was thinking more of an AA chain for 1.
Attack 1- Normal hit
Attack 2- Low duration cripple
Attack 3 (Double tap)- Spin (evade 1/2 sec) fire two shots with 1 boon strip on the second projectile.
Pistol 2 (Beacon, Faerie fire doesn’t fit theme) Cause X Vuln on target and X seconds of revealed. Aoe blind of 200-300 range.
Pistol 3 (Displace)- Fire a shot that marks your target. Second activation you and the marked target swap positions, target gains immob and a clone is produced in your original position.
Just a few musings I had at work the other day so we could have a mh ranged power weapon instead of Sc/P.
<snip>Pistol 3 (Displace)- Fire a shot that marks your target. Second activation you and the marked target swap positions, target gains immob and a clone is produced in your original position.
Ok that is fantastic – where should I send the gold?
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Pistol 3 (Displace)- Fire a shot that marks your target. Second activation you and the marked target swap positions, target gains immob and a clone is produced in your original position.Ok that is fantastic – where should I send the gold?
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First of all, for what i understand about a Mesmer, we are not really a melee class but can play melee. As I see it, Some of the ideas suggested are not realistic in GW2.
Knuckle, Fists, Claw not possible, doesn’t fit the class playing style.
OH Shield, MH pistol, good ideas but already used by other class. It will be too much a copy of the other class even if the skills are very different.
MH focus, Why, we already have it as a OH why MH, why not have card or fan instead.
This led me to the ideas i believe will be good to include.
Whip, Fan and card have a very uniqe style to them and good ideas have bee suggested here. Both I really like. The only problem is which other class will make use of them as much as the Mesmer class?
Whip: is already been used by Ele, so no problem there, also it has been suggested that Thief can have access to them. As for Ranger, can’t see it on less use as an OH with pet skills.
Fan: Ele should have useage but can see Necro taking advantage of it. Fan is not really an evil weapon type.
Card: Ele, Necro should have usage. Mesmer could be MH, while both Ele and Necro could use it as OH.
Blades, people like you still amaze me. We are unorthodox and as proof, we use greatswords as max ranged weapons. You have to stop thinking conventionally. Where you see a shortbow, I see a Klingon battl’th. When you wonder what’s the point of a main hand focus, I see Syndra from League of Legends. When you think of cards as just projectile weapons, I see them being gathered into a shield.
You have to open your mind to the possibilities. Think like a mesmer!
If they give Mesmers cards for a weapon I’m going to be upset with all of you. That’s simply inane, let’s just give the Ranger a friggin’ birdcage while we’re at it.
I don’t have any idea’s, but cards is a bad one… so are fans. Seriously people. If someone in WvW came chargin’ at me with Fans or a Deck of Cards… no. Just no.
#Edit: Also, addings Fans or Cards into the game would be odd unless it was Mesmer specific. W-t-frick is a Warrior or Elementalist going to do with a Fan or ace of spades? Fold? Ha… anyway. No; again.
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Yeah, cards seem a bit too specific. Maybe daggers, then later card skins for the daggers.
Also, for the “Fist” weapon, how about for having no-weapon in one hand you get extra utilities? No-weapon MH gets you 3, no-weapon OH gets you 2.
Yea … fans are totally stupid for a mesmer. /sarcasm off
Fans are just like the must come soon weapon, but ok.
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If they give Mesmers cards for a weapon I’m going to be upset with all of you. That’s simply inane, let’s just give the Ranger a friggin’ birdcage while we’re at it.
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I personally like the idea of having a MH whip, OH fan or MH pistol. Cards might fit the Mesmer but would be out of place on other classes, though. Probably unlikely to happen. Fan on the other hand might be too similar to focus.
Fan should more be mh AND oh. Short range cleave, maybe even a “+25% speed while wearing a fan” trait etc.
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I always wanted to have a war fan on the mesmer since I saw the artwork of the class, a whip would be nice too.
If they give Mesmers cards for a weapon I’m going to be upset with all of you. That’s simply inane, let’s just give the Ranger a friggin’ birdcage while we’re at it.
I don’t have any idea’s, but cards is a bad one… so are fans. Seriously people. If someone in WvW came chargin’ at me with Fans or a Deck of Cards… no. Just no.
#Edit: Also, addings Fans or Cards into the game would be odd unless it was Mesmer specific. W-t-frick is a Warrior or Elementalist going to do with a Fan or ace of spades? Fold? Ha… anyway. No; again.
Fans would also work well with thiefs (hidden throwing knives), guards (healing wind focus style) and possible ele. A greataxe for example wouldn’t really work for more classes (warrior, perhaps guard and ranger).
I just found a video about Gambit (Marvel Heroes Online).
I personally think, that these purple glowing cards would perfectly fit to the Mesmer.
What do you think?