Guild Wars 2

Hello fellow mesmers. So im playing mesmer right now like a month or so I like the play style im right now rolling shatter build greatsword , sword/torch. My questions are :
First: is there any possible way to deal with a power thief cuz im just getting 2 hitted by backstabbers..
Second : how to deal with a necromancer when he has a full deathshroud and how to counter lichform since its immune to daze and deals humungulous ammount of damage.
Third : I somehow cant maintain a sustained damage against high defensive class builds for wariors engis, and especialy guardians they just passively overheal my sustain just the zerk deals some dmg, any advice about that?

Thanks for answearing my questions I realy appreciate it.

Sorry no answers from me I’m in the same boat. I just wanted to ask how most people deal with condi heavy builds. I just find myself getting overrun and no way to clear them.

Against dp thief:
You need to predict his movement and watch for small signs of him approaching, e.g. being blind, black lines. They will most likely start with a stealth teleport burst on you. You can use your blurred frenzy to counter since it provides a long evade. After the openning, you have to pressure him as hard as u can. Be sure to avoid his cluster bomb. You don’t always have to immob him then shatter. Stay close to your clones and try to seize the right moment to shatter. This surely takes a lot of practise and a good thief can probably always outplay you.

The most difficult part is probably after he stole on you and got consume plasma and then use shadow refuge. He essentially resets the fight and has another chance to stealth open on you. There is really not too much you can do other than guessing and watch for any signs of attack coming(black lines again.)

Against power necro:
Avoid the wells. If you get immob/long feared, use your cooldowns. Their auto in deathshroud hits so hard that can literally down you in a couple of hits. It’s better to stay in range or find some line of sight. So you basically go in for burst and then LOS and wait for next burst. Against Lich, you either moa him or you run away.

Against tanky warrior:
I also find it pretty hard to deal enough damage on them. It’s the kind of fight I probably don’t want to take 1on1. You might win in the end but it’s probably not worth the time. If you use gs/staff instead, you might have better chance of beating them.

Against cele engi:
I actually find they are not very tanky at all. They do have amazing healing but if you can interrupt it he is basically dead. Otherwise, just burst hard and often.

Against guardian:
If it is meditation guard, you have to kite him. His burst can down you in like 2 seconds. Distort right away the moment he teleport and ring on you. Don’t think too much about killing him unless he is already low.

Bunker guardian I am not too sure. Don’t see too often. But it really shouldn’t be too hard a matchup.

Loony.3714:

Sorry no answers from me I’m in the same boat. I just wanted to ask how most people deal with condi heavy builds. I just find myself getting overrun and no way to clear them.

Yeah, those condie tanks are hard for shatter mesmer to handle. Try bringing mantra of resolve instead of portal. This way you will have much better 1v1 capability.

TBH, some condie specs simply counters traditional shatter. e.g. condie ranger, condie signet elementalist or even condie mesmer.

I’m just going to offer this which will help with defining roles in PvP, and go over basics like rotations.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Learning-the-trade-of-PvP/first#

These basics set up the scene for which these more specific issues result in/revolve around.

chaoslordlol.3165:

First: is there any possible way to deal with a power thief cuz im just getting 2 hitted by backstabbers..

You need to avoid the backstab. Note when/how the thief stealths, then count and move. As long as you keep moving, they won’t be able to backstab you easily, and you can cover the last bit of the stealth with blurred frenzy or a dodge. Once they’re visible again, burst.

chaoslordlol.3165:

Second : how to deal with a necromancer when he has a full deathshroud

Interrupt him continually. Almost everything it does has a really long windup, so just keep rolling out the interrupts to stop the damage.

chaoslordlol.3165:

and how to counter lichform since its immune to daze and deals humungulous ammount of damage.

Moa morph. The only other way is to use a dedicated reflecting build, but that’s bad for other reasons.

chaoslordlol.3165:

Third : I somehow cant maintain a sustained damage against high defensive class builds for wariors engis, and especialy guardians they just passively overheal my sustain just the zerk deals some dmg, any advice about that?

As a shatter mesmer, your job description does not include killing bunkers by yourself. Your main role is to provide hard aoe damage pressure into teamfights to instakill people that are low, scare people away from stomping/ressing, and to provide some utility to secure stomps/resses yourself. Taking on a tanky warrior, guardian or turret engie really isn’t something you should be doing.

Thanks guys you helped me a lot with some answears did not test the moa on lich form yet so didn t knew if it works or its immune to it either.
And against thiefs i found myself a trait in illusions for shatterer instead of more bounce for GS second skill i put the trait that makes my glamour skills ( Null field) blind the enemy so when a thief stealths I wait few seconds and put the null field under me so he will definitely miss the first backstab and afterwards to dodge the second is easy.