No LOS? Well. That catapult hurts.
Ok, so, at least in my guild our major priority in WvW when attacking a keep was to try to remove defensive siege. The best way to do this? Well, the only way. Have mesmers cast phantasms over the gate to attack the people on the catapult.
Now that this is no longer an option, how exactly does anet intend for us to destroy defensive siege that is hidden behind a wall? Unless Anet makes catapults not do damage through objects, this is EXTREMELY broken.
you build catapults instead of rams. they should just remove rams from the game.
Ok, so, at least in my guild our major priority in WvW when attacking a keep was to try to remove defensive siege. The best way to do this? Well, the only way. Have mesmers cast phantasms over the gate to attack the people on the catapult.
Now that this is no longer an option, how exactly does anet intend for us to destroy defensive siege that is hidden behind a wall? Unless Anet makes catapults not do damage through objects, this is EXTREMELY broken.
you build catapults instead of rams. they should just remove rams from the game.
Yes, that is a viable strategy, but then what is wrong with building rams? You seem to say that rams are in some way broken.. Please do explain how they are either broken, or overpowered. They are close range, melee siege devices that do more damage than the long ranged…?
Ok, so, at least in my guild our major priority in WvW when attacking a keep was to try to remove defensive siege. The best way to do this? Well, the only way. Have mesmers cast phantasms over the gate to attack the people on the catapult.
Now that this is no longer an option, how exactly does anet intend for us to destroy defensive siege that is hidden behind a wall? Unless Anet makes catapults not do damage through objects, this is EXTREMELY broken.
you build catapults instead of rams. they should just remove rams from the game.
Yes, that is a viable strategy, but then what is wrong with building rams? You seem to say that rams are in some way broken.. Please do explain how they are either broken, or overpowered. They are close range, melee siege devices that do more damage than the long ranged…?
they are broken in the sense that you can’t stop the catapult from hitting you through the gate. i’m agreeing with you that it’s kitten that anet nerfed berserker without giving some other way of attacking in return, when mesmers have no other options.
Ok, so, at least in my guild our major priority in WvW when attacking a keep was to try to remove defensive siege. The best way to do this? Well, the only way. Have mesmers cast phantasms over the gate to attack the people on the catapult.
Now that this is no longer an option, how exactly does anet intend for us to destroy defensive siege that is hidden behind a wall? Unless Anet makes catapults not do damage through objects, this is EXTREMELY broken.
you build catapults instead of rams. they should just remove rams from the game.
Yes, that is a viable strategy, but then what is wrong with building rams? You seem to say that rams are in some way broken.. Please do explain how they are either broken, or overpowered. They are close range, melee siege devices that do more damage than the long ranged…?
they are broken in the sense that you can’t stop the catapult from hitting you through the gate. i’m agreeing with you that it’s kitten that anet nerfed berserker without giving some other way of attacking in return, when mesmers have no other options.
The problem is that NOBODY has any other way of attacking it 0.o
The only solution is to build a trebuchet to lob shots over a wall to kill a catapult… Which is just ridiculously insane…
There is currently no way to actually kill defensive siege. At all. (that makes sense.)
Build the ram a bit further back so that the edge of the green circle is touching the gate
Build the ram a bit further back so that the edge of the green circle is touching the gate
Yes, experienced people know this. But still the problem exists.
That is like saying “Oh, well you can just use a bow on a warrior instead of using your sword. That fixes the problem of him 1-shotting you”
It’s providing a side path to it, instead of fixing the problem.
Build the ram a bit further back so that the edge of the green circle is touching the gate
Yes, experienced people know this. But still the problem exists.
That is like saying “Oh, well you can just use a bow on a warrior instead of using your sword. That fixes the problem of him 1-shotting you”
It’s providing a side path to it, instead of fixing the problem.
Not sure that it’s that kind of a problem. In the first weeks of WvW, people complained about rams attacks difficult to deal with since multiple rams could be built quickly and the attackers would AOE the door, making it very difficult for the defenders to repair it or do anything about the rams. Somebody discovered the catapult behind a door would help, and so it became more and more common that it is basically a must-have today. I still think the best solution would just to make the door stop all AOE damage from going through. The catapult is just a counter to something that gave the advantage to the attackers, just like placing the ram further back is a counter to the catapult. I am not sure that it is comparable to the bow warrior issue that you mentioned.
So, basically, the iBerserker was just another way to deal with the catapult as well – and is basically equivalent to putting the rams further back. The root of the problem comes back to AOE going through doors – which from what I heard, is a technically difficult problem to solve.
(edited by Telegraph.7509)