Guild Wars 2

So yet another mesmer offhand a pretty nice looking one at that. so what if i want to run power i need to run sword/shield sword/focus? Can i just give up my skill#3 and have Focus/Shield Sword/Pistol?

AFAIK, the only official announcement was Necro GS. Too soon to start lamenting no new MH.

They clearly showed a mesmer wielding a sword and shield in the trailer unless you think that mantra symbol he slammed on the ground was the new class stealing our class design

Rangerdeity.5847:

They clearly showed a mesmer wielding a sword and shield in the trailer unless you think that mantra symbol he slammed on the ground was the new class stealing our class design

They showed the sword+shield, but that doesn’t mean shield is the only new weapon. Always a possibility that MH Pistol is an option and they just didn’t show it. Or that the specialization unlocks shield AND changes some/all of the skills on existing weapons. A new batch of skills on sword is just as good as a new weapon choice!

Kelthien.8593:

Rangerdeity.5847:

They clearly showed a mesmer wielding a sword and shield in the trailer unless you think that mantra symbol he slammed on the ground was the new class stealing our class design

They showed the sword+shield, but that doesn’t mean shield is the only new weapon. Always a possibility that MH Pistol is an option and they just didn’t show it. Or that the specialization unlocks shield AND changes some/all of the skills on existing weapons. A new batch of skills on sword is just as good as a new weapon choice!

the specifically said each class will receive A new weapon that can only be obtained via specialization. That is it that is all I think you overestimate the scope of this expac

I think the Mesmer shield comment was in response to me saying the only official announcement was the Necro GS, not necessarily that the shield was our only new weapon.

Definitely only shield by the way they made it sound.
“A new weapon”, only one.

That is so unfair though, with necros getting five new skills and engi’s if what I saw in the trailer was hammer engi, I don’t think they would favour other classes. It would be nice if the classes that don’t get a new two handed weapon get a main hand and offhand.
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GIMME DAT DUAL PISTOL MESMER I NEED IT AHH ; A ;

Going to have to wait for more info on this, but if after three years mesmers are only going to be getting two new skills on yet another offhand, I’m going to be more than disappointed. Hopefully if it is only the shield, the specialization that unlocks it changes all your weapon skills to chronomancer or whatever it is going to be.

You guys are too rigid. The “a” in “a new weapon” could’ve meant “for each specialization, the profession will get a new weapon they hadn’t had before” in which the likely case of us being presented with more specials equals us getting more weapons.

Don’t dig too much into the specifics of ANet’s grammar and try to think of the less dumb thing what they wrote could mean.

grammar of announcements from any large company should always be put under a micro scope…

specific words are chosen and rehearsed and used for the reason of being able to later point back on.

if you are later mad and want to sue anet for false claims they can point back to the exact grammar of “1 new weapon” and assure you that it was entirely your fault you read into this to mean 1 per specialization… never assume or try to read past posts that are official, take them at literal face value

I think the wording was quite clear, a specialization gives access to a new weapon.

But they didn’t say how many specializations will be in game when HOT arrives, and this mechanic really feels open to more expansion: develop a new “theme” per class and add a new weapon/skills. It’s a platform they can build on for years to come.

you forget that with new specialisations there will be entirely new profession mechanics (besides the new healing skill, a new elite and a new set of utilities).

The Mesmer has 4 F-Skills (Shatters) as profession mechanic. If those change you’ll get 4 new skills here. Depending on how complex those may be I don’t feel betrayed at all, just looking forward to play the new specialisation.

Specializations could also mean that skills on already accessible weapons are altered.

Who knows.

Still no fan as a weapon, but the shield was my 2nd choice. I dunno what’s up with all those pistol fanatics. Pistol mainhand wouldn’t really fit anyway and just be too similiar to a scepter w/e skill you give it.

They did a good job by maybe letting us go cele in pvp or even tanky / healing mantra kitten.

Xyonon.3987:

Pistol mainhand wouldn’t really fit anyway

So, you think that a traditionally melee only weapon that shoot frikkin laser beams at range only – fit the Mesmer better than a traditionally ranged/CQB that the Mesmer can already use in off hand?

Yeah. No. A pistol mainhand fits perfectly.

But not that I care. If they made it a pistol, they’d probably kitten it up and nerf it to uselessness, just like the scepter. The Mesmer is not allowed to be a logical class choice, it never has been.

I don’t care whether it’s a pistol or a mainhand toilet cleaner – as long as we get a new mainhand.

4 off hands at the moment, only two mainhands – and each mainhand has completely different purposes (melee/direct damage, ranged/mainly condition damage).

If we get another offhand without also getting a mainhand, it will not help with loadout variety.

If we don’t, then I hope at least we might get alternate skills for sword and scepter, allowing us to customise each into the role we prefer.

From the demand dual pistols had since release (I still don’t get why everyone wants ANOTHER ranged weapon… Maybe It’s cuz I’m Canadian.) I’d be surprised if one of the other specializations was not some type of duelist or trickster type thing that used double pistol.

I’d personally love offhand dagger, and give us a little evade spam like thieves and rangers >=3

It is hard to think of something other than sword for a melee main hand tho, the other options being like Axe, mace, and hammer… which I guess hammer would be cool but none of them feel quite right? Unless we had some sort of really home hitting specialization.

Tho if we did get a ranged option I’d be more on board with one of the bow types, and have it be mostly AoE based.

there is actually already a mesmer hammer bundle in the game that is really fun to play. It is in the storyline of sylvari if you pick “act with wisdom” and choose not to help caithe around story 20. Would have loved to seen a version of this that was less op. I’m thinking for this to be billed as an expansion, the specialization will change main hand skills too. Not having actual weapons is okay if we have new skills on the old ones.

It would be a travesty if there was no new main hand weapon to accompany the supposed shield. I’ve always found the lack of main-hand variant to be a source of Mesmer build stagnation, so I actually think a new main-hand is quite important.

Edit: It’s entirely possible that specialising as a Mesmer provides different main-hand sword skills.

Simonoly.4352:

It would be a travesty if there was no new main hand weapon to accompany the supposed shield. I’ve always found the lack of main-hand variant to be a source of Mesmer build stagnation, so I actually think a new main-hand is quite important.

Edit: It’s entirely possible that specialising as a Mesmer provides different main-hand sword skills.

That’s what I’m hoping for as well. We pick up just the shield, but our specialization alters some or all of our existing weapon skills slightly.

Simonoly.4352:

It would be a travesty if there was no new main hand weapon to accompany the supposed shield. I’ve always found the lack of main-hand variant to be a source of Mesmer build stagnation, so I actually think a new main-hand is quite important.

Edit: It’s entirely possible that specialising as a Mesmer provides different main-hand sword skills.

Imagine if mainhand sword could have a ranged auto attack option like greatsword – but three fast bolts (like a sci-fi blaster) instead of a channeled beam.

That would be an awesome alternative.

Just saying, but if it’s true that there will be new class mechanics… Wouldn’t that mean there may be no illusions? Guess what all mesmer weapons do – summon illusions/phantasms. Those skills would probably need to be altered – maybe a compromise to not having a new MH weapon? (I just came up with this on the spot – don’t start insulting me for having ‘stupid ideas’ or whatever, please)

Lol, sure we will still have our Phantasms. And we will get a new weapon foreachspecializatiion. What if every class can choose between two specializations.
So a two Hand spear for one, and the shield for the other. Who knows. But i dont think they will change the classmechanics that much.

the demand for dual pistols is really more for the fact that players want an additional 2 main hands one for condi and one for power builds and they want one weapon set for ranged kitey fights and the other for the melee smash and grab. i personally would use pistol/focus sword/pistol for WvW

Or maybe we get a MH shield :p
( but the shield was on the characters left hand in the trailer, so no dark souls dual shielding goodbye dreams )

Flarn.8706:

Or maybe we get a MH shield :p
( but the shield was on the characters left hand in the trailer, so no dark souls dual shielding goodbye dreams )

DUAL WIELD.

I would love to be able to go duel pistol – gs phantasm in WvW and PvP <3 That would be amazing

It’s hard to say. Based on the trailer and the current information about Specializations, it can be inferred that the Mesmer Specialization is what gives access to shields, and that’s all it will give access to. This may not be as underwhelming for the Specialization as it sounds, though, since they claimed that the most important part of Specializations are new profession mechanics that will fundamentally change them (well, they said that about Druid, so it presumably will at least apply to some of the others). In other words, it’s possible that it might change some of the other skills, or at least how they’re used enough to not make the shield feel underwhelming on its own.

Also, that doesn’t mean the base class won’t be getting new options. I wouldn’t get my hopes up over it, since they didn’t say anything about it, but it’s always possible, and wouldn’t contradict the website, since that only talks about what the Specialization changes, not what the base class has.

I really hope some more options are added. There are several currently unavailable options for multiple classes that seem obvious, and might help to round some things out. Really seems like something they at least would have said they’re doing, even if they didn’t give specifics though, unfortunately.

I have wanted mainhand pistol since the day I made my mesmer. It always floored me that we get a phantasm that does it just fine. I just don’t think we need another off-hand. We have oodles already.

We don’t know what we’re getting. Possibly a shield. Who knows if we get other weapons as well. I’d rather wait and see than speculate and complain.

I’d love main-hand pistol. That would be very fitting.

I started the game as a mesmer with the idea of dual wielding pistols so I think a mh pistol would be cool. I also think an axe or dagger are possible new weapons, being the only other weapons our clones have (focus 5, and downed 3) that we don’t , other than mh pistol and shield already mentioned.

Not that I’ll complain one way or the other about a NEW weapon for my favorite class, it’s still fun to speculate.

Eh. I’m still hoping for MH Pistol and (eventually, Gods only know when), MH Focus and/or Fans.
Ah, well … gonna be a while before I can even afford HoT, with my current lack of a J.O.B.
sob

Advent.6193:

Eh. I’m still hoping for MH Pistol and (eventually, Gods only know when), MH Focus and/or Fans.
Ah, well … gonna be a while before I can even afford HoT, with my current lack of a J.O.B.
sob

Well luckily for you, you’ll have plenty of time to find a job and receive several paychecks. I doubt we get HoT anytime soon.