Guild Wars 2

As the title sais:
Don’t expect Mirage or any other new Elite spec to be better than Chronomancer, you will feel dissapointed because of your high expectations almost certainly.

Chronomancer is by far the strongest Elite spec in the entire game, it has been this case since it’s release in HoT.
People expect every new spec to be on par or stronger than their previous Elite spec, just live with the fact that this should never be a designer’s goal. The goal for the new Elite spec’s is simply to unlock new ways to play your class, which in this case Mirage captures very well.

You are delusional if you think current chrono after rounds and rounds of nerf is still the best spec.

Go play the current meta chrono, you will struggle to kill anyone with its current damage output. In teamfight, you will have little presence as your clones can’t live past 3 seconds.

The only good thing about it is F5 moa and portal. And even those, you need a good thief to capitalize on.

And BTW, mirage didn’t unlock new ways to play.

It plays exactly like…..base mesmer.

Chrono isn’t the strongest spec in the game.

Mirage doesn’t provide new ways to play, just ways to play Mesmer or Chrono specs worse then you currently can.

Well with Chrono at least I can survive AND kill people. I had the pleasure of fighting a Mirage 1v1 with my Menders Chrono. They didn’t last long at all. The thing with Chrono that makes it so good is the fact it fixes problems that core mesmer had. Good team support, a way to help ensure shatters get to target, a good CD management ability, etc.

Now, Mirage should have been able to stand with Chrono but it can’t. To fix this it needs to be able to-
increase personal dps to the high 30-40k damage range since it doesn’t offer much team support.
Ensure shatters have a probability to hit by blinking them to target(differs from super speed and fits with Mirage)
Or change shatter mechanic so that instead of shatters it causes target to break on you and transfer to illusions, causes illusions(not just clones) to use Ambush attacks, makes it were all illusions must be killed before damage is done to you, etc
Buff illusion health and armor to core Mesmer. This would allow more specs to become viable as the game has outpaced illusion health by… way too much. Also, implementing a 90% damage reduction against nontargeted illusions is also viable but both should go hand in hand.
That’s just a few things that would make Mirage competitive but doubt we’ll see them.

Ooh wait, you are all still stuck in PvP land.. talking about looking at things from a wider perspective.

If you think Mirage does not include unique things then perhaps thats where things have gone bad for you guys, i’m not judging, i’m just saying.

Also about the clones thing.. Mirage can have 3 clones up after a shatter within 1-2 seconds.

Using the word ‘powerful’ depends on the context. In high level PvE, Chrono has unparalleled support able to carry groups with its Quickness and Alacrity output and distortion sharing. In other ways it is weak.

Skuzz.6580:

Ooh wait, you are all still stuck in PvP land.. talking about looking at things from a wider perspective.

If you think Mirage does not include unique things then perhaps thats where things have gone bad for you guys, i’m not judging, i’m just saying.

Also about the clones thing.. Mirage can have 3 clones up after a shatter within 1-2 seconds.

Sure Mirage CAN have them up. Doesn’t mean it will or that the clones are guaranteed to survive. This is what kills me, just because you can do something against a golem or complete noob doesn’t mean it’s going to work in PvP or WvW. Mirage is junk in large scale WvW because the mechanic it works off of fails miserably in the face of AoE. That’s the entire problem with illusions. Mesmer get taken in WvW for veil, portal and boom share not dps.
Now my post actually covers all the game modes not just PvP. Increasing the dps to ensure its competitive with eles, warriors and guards is why I said it needed to do a minimum of high 30-40k damage. Otherwise why take it over Chrono and at this point why take Chrono if Rev and Guard can provide the relevant buffs?
The shatter mechanic and illusions are inherently flawed in all game modes. Mes dps is based on having all phantasms up but yet we are supposed to shatter? It needs to be one or the other. Anet stated we were supposed to shatter hence the removal of clone death traits. Now with Mirage it’s… based on clones doing the work yet again. Ambush attacks are where your meant to do your damage. That’s cool and all but against the supposed design of Mesmer.

I’m not saying that Mirage isn’t “unique”. It is and there are some things that I like. One being the dodge mechanic. It’s weird and limits you in some aspects but it’s cool. On the other hand Mirage Mirrors, axe, clunky ambush attacks are all jokes. Your opinion may be different but the vast majority of the people I’ve seen here, on Reddit, and in game all lean towards the spec is a joke. Sure some people will like it but it’s still currently sub par and nothing that makes it “unique” will change that.

Skuzz.6580:

Ooh wait, you are all still stuck in PvP land.. talking about looking at things from a wider perspective.

If you think Mirage does not include unique things then perhaps thats where things have gone bad for you guys, i’m not judging, i’m just saying.

Also about the clones thing.. Mirage can have 3 clones up after a shatter within 1-2 seconds.

Mirage is a PvP spec and terrible at it. In Pve it provides no damage at all and still relies on broken illusion mechanics from core Mesmer. Nothing has changed except a worse dodge and a melee weapon out damaged by scepter.

In PvE Chrono is strong but once again Warrior and Druid support builds provide more group dps through thier buffs and more personal dps at the same time.

Firebrand can provide group quickness, which is more important then alacrity, easier and with higher damage. Renegade can’t seem to easily provide group Alacrity yet but can provide a decent amount with better damage. All Chorno has going for it is providing quickness and Alacrity and tanking in one spec but they obviously designed these new elite specs to break up the Warrior/Druid/Chrono meta and if it stays like that after PoF expect buffs to Firebrand and Renegade. Well Druid is safe till GoTL changes to a boon that other classes can provide, they don’t want to admit they messed up with that trait.

Skuzz.6580:

Ooh wait, you are all still stuck in PvP land.. talking about looking at things from a wider perspective.

If you think Mirage does not include unique things then perhaps thats where things have gone bad for you guys, i’m not judging, i’m just saying.

Also about the clones thing.. Mirage can have 3 clones up after a shatter within 1-2 seconds.

show us the build , rotation , so we can compare this with core condi mes
like its anything hard lol
we tested , even it increases dps for condi mes . its likely not much to make condi mirage desirable in raid not to mention all problem of core mes remains —-as only dps that has nearly no aoe dmg .

what is worse is , it does not offer any new way to play . that‘s why so many mes mains are saying its not about numbers its about its flawed design.