phantasmal haste makes phantasms attack faster, not recharge faster.
That’s not what the tooltip says.
They may not want some phantasms to have such a low recharge w/ weapon traits, Phantasmal Haste & Illusionist’s Celerity. But if that were the case they shouldnt have included two traits that lower the Phantasmal CD in the first place.
That’s what it’s supposed to do. Problem is: iSwordsman has an attack cooldown of 4.5 seconds both with and without the trait.
“This trait now works”? Uh, no it doesn’t.
I think it was mentioned a long time ago that certain phantasms don’t receive the benefit. disenchanter, defender, and swordsman were i think the 3 that they said wouldn’t be affected.
I think it was mentioned a long time ago that certain phantasms don’t receive the benefit. disenchanter, defender, and swordsman were i think the 3 that they said wouldn’t be affected.
I remember bug notes saying that those were the ones that weren’t affected before (that we discovered, not ANet), but I don’t remember them ever saying “This trait that says it affects Phantasms will not affect your Phantasms”.
iWarden and iMage are also not currently affected. Can someone test Berserker for me? I’m running a little late and need to hop in the shower.
Phantasmal Haste does not work on I duelest and defender. I do not think they fixed it at all other than in the patch notes. I did not check warlock. Looks like the trait is only useful on certain builds.
Phantasmal Haste does not work on I duelest and defender. I do not think they fixed it at all other than in the patch notes. I did not check warlock. Looks like the trait is only useful on certain builds.
I am pretty sure that the skill does work on Duellist, however last I tested this out was a month or so ago in sPvP… so who knows they could have screwed it all up since then.
Don’t worry dre, that’s what grinding for Ascended gear is for, get getting back a bit of that damage loss.
Just did a very unofficial count in my head, and both Zerker and Duelist are attacking faster with Haste than without. This was in the world, didn’t try pvp or wvw.
I wish they’d test all classes on some offline server before putting them in. Now we have bad iZerks and other broken skills, not to mention fail tool tips and unstacking Temporal curtain swiftness.
Just did a very unofficial count in my head, and both Zerker and Duelist are attacking faster with Haste than without. This was in the world, didn’t try pvp or wvw.
Wow! Now iZerker hits like a wet noodle a bit more often than it used to hit full force! /cynicism.
The tool tip is wrong. It reduces the recharge on the phantasms attack, not the recharge of the skill that summons them.
the tool tip is correct. The wording can mean both, and most players tend to read the different meaning. And adding grammar signs doesn’t help the american nation. Thy tan 2 reed th1s.
The tool tip is wrong. It reduces the recharge on the phantasms attack, not the recharge of the skill that summons them.
the tool tip is correct. The wording can mean both, and most players tend to read the different meaning. And adding grammar signs doesn’t help the american nation. Thy tan 2 reed th1s.
I mean, you don’t misunderstand
Persisting Images tooltip:
Phantasms have 20% more health.
Like it increases the mesmers spell health.
But the fact is “recharge” is vague. I don’t need to spend time trying to decipher what a tooltip means, when a simple re-wording would make things clear. Like: “Phantasms attack 20% faster.”
Why are we even still fighting over the wording of this? We already have a nice precedent that is the Phantasmal Haste on iWarden before it was nerfed. Back then, what it clearly did was shorten the downtime between iWarden’s attacks.
In any case, I just did a quick test in Mists against dummies using a stop watch with lap timer function:
Phantasm – time without trait —> time with trait
iBerserker – 7 seconds goes down to 6 seconds.
iWarlock – 7 seconds goes down to 6 seconds.
iDuelist – 7.5 seconds goes down to 6.6 seconds.
iSwordsman – 4.5 seconds stays at 4.5 seconds.
iWarden – 14 seconds down to 12 seconds.
iMage – 7.7 seconds down to 6.5 seconds
iDisenchanter – 4.5 seconds stays at 4.5 seconds.
I may be off by about 0.2 seconds.
I don’t feel like testing the underwater ones since I don’t really care about underwater combat.
It would be terrible even if it was 20% . Even as a minor trait i wouldnt spend 5 points to get it. There are many more worthy traits than this. Your illusions will never stay alive for 42 seconds to see an extra attack (berserker and warlock for example) that you get from this trait. Useless.
But the fact is “recharge” is vague. I don’t need to spend time trying to decipher what a tooltip means, when a simple re-wording would make things clear. Like: “Phantasms attack 20% faster.”
Attack is a worse choice in this case.
Quickness is an effect that makes you act “twice as fast”, or attack 100% faster, but does not reduce the recharge time (cooldown). Since you are a mesmer, you can test it on your own using Time Warp with sword#2 or scepter#3, and then put Time Warp on pDuelist or pWarden (not your skill pistol#4 or focus#5!). Don’t test it with your #1 skills since they do not have cooldowns at all.
Phantasms do not attack faster with Phantasmal Haste. They(Phantasms) recharge (20%) faster.
