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Phantasm / Illusion Build Advice
That bad or that good…. no comments at all.
No comments still? Is it so terrible you can’t comment? :-/
It is rather bad. You illusions will die far to quick to do enough dmg. I am not sure for what you want to use that build but in PvE it could work everye where else not.
Blub.
It is PvE build. Why would Phantasms die too quickly? Is that just the nature of them? If so, seems shattering is the only legit way to go.
Yes they die rather quick and most will run into melee ranger. You can builder for them but I would rather use them in a mi of either a power or condtion build they still do insane dmg.
Blub.
Isn’t it terrible? There is literally NO ONE commenting on build advice to help people out, in the mesmer or necro threads that I’ve seen.
I am asking similar things myself. Ok so if the phantasm will die too quickly, and it is a bad build, care to explain WHY? And better yet how to fix it?
I don’t run a phantasm build but the issue that stands out for me is that you’ll be slow to spawn them. You don’t have any of the abilities that reduce weapon ability cooldowns. They stack with the 5 point illusion reduction and really help getting them out fast for burst or replacing them if they’re going down fast.
Generally I think people run GS with phantasm builds and staff for condition/utility builds, so your weapon type may hurt you some too.
I’m of the opinion that the build you find most fun/natural to play is the best build. Sure, some things might do more PEW PEW, but if you can play a build with your style than that’s what is best.
Not a Mesmer expert by any means but i play one as my main,i watched the 3 youtube videos posted by Mrpromethius and got a far better understanding of the class.
link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eZ0NNd7b60&feature=relmfu
the first ones quite long but i found them very interesting.
i’m currently lvl 36 and enjoying Mesmer more than ever.
The current issu with full phantasm builds is
1) They are hard countred by AoE dmg and pretty much any thing is AoE atm.
1.1) On the other hand the skill to spawn the again are rather long even when traited.
2) Most of the traits that make them last longer ( hp reg trait, retatlation trait etc) are bugged. They either don’t work or stop working after the first buff runs out ( 10sek)
3) Most of them spawn in mellee range or have a bad pathing. The dulist is one of the best phantasm becaus he is rather save . Other tend to either spawn in mellee rang or to run far to close when they chase (warlock).
Over all phantasm builds can be great and I ran it for a time in PvE and curshed stuff pretty easy but as soon as you get either more tanky enemys, with more AoE then every 20 sek or just groups standing closer togther they start to become less usfull.
In WvW they die becaus of the massiv AoE. They can be very usfull to take down gates and other stuff.
One the other hand builds like conditon dmg or even pur dmg do pretty well consitent dmg and still can have phantasms hit hard. For example my warlock does roughly 1600dmg with no crit and two conditions on the enemy. With full phantasm build he does about 1700 dmg. He has a bit more Hp and gets more crits and does bleeding on crits but in my condtions builds my condtions over weight that and I can way more tanky.
edit: yes look at the videos Farstryker posted they are very good. I may disagree with the usfullness of some stuff but MrPrometheus has a pretty good way to get his knowledge to people.
Blub.
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this is my PvE Phantasm focused build, feel fre to try it, i’m no expert, but i do fine on dungeons/soloing content.
also for gear you will want to go Knight (power/presicion/toughness) with divinity runes
Not a Mesmer expert by any means but i play one as my main,i watched the 3 youtube videos posted by Mrpromethius and got a far better understanding of the class.
link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eZ0NNd7b60&feature=relmfu
the first ones quite long but i found them very interesting.
i’m currently lvl 36 and enjoying Mesmer more than ever.
The 3 video’s by this guy…. THE best on the class IMO.
He goes through every skill, every weapon etc. and doesn’t show a lot of bias for/against the skills, a little on some.. but for the most part tells you how to use each skill effectively.
So many class vids concentrate on certain skills, and either skip or mention others in passing cause the author doesn’t like or use them. This guy goes into detail on every skill, how it’s best used etc. The vids are good for ALL builds of Mesmer, not just a certain build.
Highly recommend the 3 videos. yeah… they are long, but worth the time. grab a snack, and prepare to take notes. (i did… a lot) 2 50 minute vids, and a 24 min vid.
Just watching his explanation of the skills made me rethink my build. I have always wanted to play Mesmer, but every time i do i got bored/frustrated cause I didn’t fully understand the class. (it is an advanced class IMO)
IMO a link to the vids should be in a sticky here.
Edit: you can skip the first one, or use the direct links in the descriptions if you want. It’s mainly the weapon skills etc. Informative if you are new to the class, it can me basic knowledge to you if you play Mesmer already though.
“People who say it cannot be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it.”
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Being an intermediate Mesmer-user myself, the way that I see it, is that clones generally have more health than phantasms, the former being augmented for pseudo-tanking and/or (mainly) shattering, and the latter built for DPS while lacking a great deal of heath. You could also try adding Signet of Illusions to a utility slot and seeing how that fares for you (it does for me), although most of the time you’ll find yourself summoning out new phantasms as soon as viably possible, in both PvE and PvP. if you have any intention(s) of summoning phantasms as as quickly as possible, I suggest you allocate traits into Phantasmal Haste (X – 20 Illusions) and whichever trait(s) accommodates for your weapon(s) of choice, which also lowers the cooldown of their respective phantasm; although really, it all comes down to when and where you decide to summon them (phantasms) out.