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Posted by: Gaidax.7835

Gaidax.7835

So I logged in today to try out this so called nerf.

Honestly? Nothing changed… The most obvious change is cooldowns nerf, which I admit, kinda takes time to get used to, but on the other hand I feel even more powerful with Berserker hitting like a truck (up to 5.3k in sPvP so far) and adding Restorative Mantras with Mantra of Recovery (instead of IC) and Signet of Illusions and HP buff are really felt well – there is no one-shotting phantasms with random AoE sneeze anymore.

I think overall it was good and stays good for whatever it was good before (which is 1v1, skirmishing and hotjoins). All the doom and gloom preaching is way overblown.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

The doom and gloom preaching isn’t about phantasm builds, it’s about everything else. This is the most ironic part of the whole thing. The nerf seemed to be targeted at phantasm builds, and yet phantasm builds are the least affected by the nerf, because it nerfed the WRONG part of the builds.

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Posted by: XRay.1920

XRay.1920

The doom and gloom preaching isn’t about phantasm builds, it’s about everything else. This is the most ironic part of the whole thing. The nerf seemed to be targeted at phantasm builds, and yet phantasm builds are the least affected by the nerf, because it nerfed the WRONG part of the builds.

dude don’t give them ideas lol

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Posted by: LiebnirGWAccount.5698

LiebnirGWAccount.5698

The doom and gloom preaching isn’t about phantasm builds, it’s about everything else. This is the most ironic part of the whole thing. The nerf seemed to be targeted at phantasm builds, and yet phantasm builds are the least affected by the nerf, because it nerfed the WRONG part of the builds.

dude don’t give them ideas lol

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Posted by: Expansive.3716

Expansive.3716

Yea Pyro you’re a good guy and pretty helpful, but sometimes you talk a little too much lol. No offense though

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Posted by: Astrhem.1857

Astrhem.1857

Gaidax, would you mind posting your phantasm mesmer build? I would love to see it as I’m new to mesmer! Hope you can help me! haha :]

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Posted by: lujate.5432

lujate.5432

After this patch, I shelved my phantasm build and started trying different shatter builds. None performed as well for me as my phantasm build had. So I shifted the 5 points out of Illusions and went back to my phanstasm build. I noticed the longer cool downs, but the change turned out to be minor. As for the Blurred Frenzy nerf… Well, that is a topic for another thread.

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Posted by: Clyne.9038

Clyne.9038

So much kitten peeps. I think it is pretty obvious that anet doesn’t want high killing power without some sacrifices.

In particular, i honestly feel bunker builds that can kill passively and easily, should vanish from this world.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

So only the collateral damage of screwing pve players had an impact?

nice to know…..

In PvE the nerf is way more than noticeable.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Aneirin Cadwall.9126

even more powerful with Berserker hitting like a truck (up to 5.3k)

loldragoon… er, lolmesmer.

sighs

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Posted by: XRay.1920

XRay.1920

even more powerful with Berserker hitting like a truck (up to 5.3k)

loldragoon… er, lolmesmer.

sighs

nerf mesmers. buff thieves.

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Posted by: Gaidax.7835

Gaidax.7835

even more powerful with Berserker hitting like a truck (up to 5.3k)

loldragoon… er, lolmesmer.

sighs

I’m talking about sPvP, son. Not your PvE 100 percent+ crit nonsense.

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Posted by: Kicast.1459

Kicast.1459

Yea Pyro you’re a good guy and pretty helpful, but sometimes you talk a little too much lol. No offense though

I do not see exactly what do you want to explain regarding the topic ?
I just see nothing but pure personal offense here.

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Posted by: colesy.8490

colesy.8490

He means that pyro mentioning phantasm builds not being completely kitten means they’ll get hit with the nerf bat again.

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Posted by: Kicast.1459

Kicast.1459

He means that pyro mentioning phantasm builds not being completely kitten means they’ll get hit with the nerf bat again.

Erf…ok ok I am sorry :-)
I fear I am still not too used to the nerf bat chains.

We have a sentence in France for that: “Pour vivre heureux…vivons cachés”
which I would translate this way: “To live happy, live in secret”

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Posted by: XRay.1920

XRay.1920

He means that pyro mentioning phantasm builds not being completely kitten means they’ll get hit with the nerf bat again.

Erf…ok ok I am sorry :-)
I fear I am still not too used to the nerf bat chains.

We have a sentence in France for that: “http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6em7tGl7A1qdtdz6o1_500.jpg

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Posted by: dagrdagaz.4913

dagrdagaz.4913

I nvr checked if true, but according to the tooltips Illusionary Celerity nvr stacked with each weapon’s traited recharge reduction for Illusions.
What i did notice after the patch was that the traited recharge reduction i had for 2 weapons worked fine. So, that softens the pain a bit (for Illusionary Celerity change)

I was worried i had to retire my illusions based PvE mesmer to, tnx to nerf to Illusionary Celerity and Vengefull Images.
But after playing a bit, i did not notice i had more trouble.

And yes, i also took the 5 points i had in Illusions trait out of it.

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Posted by: Winds.3087

Winds.3087

I’m talking about sPvP, son. Not your PvE 100 percent+ crit nonsense.

But if that was pve 100 percent crit nonsense, then it would show “blahblah invader” instead of “Drfabulous and Last Frost”.

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Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

I nvr checked if true, but according to the tooltips Illusionary Celerity nvr stacked with each weapon’s traited recharge reduction for Illusions

It stacked, except for a few ones. The tooltips were incorrect though.

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Posted by: Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Aneirin Cadwall.9126

I’m talking about sPvP, son. Not your PvE 100 percent+ crit nonsense.

But if that was pve 100 percent crit nonsense, then it would show “blahblah invader” instead of “Drfabulous and Last Frost”.

Wasn’t worth addressing after he overlooked that fact and called me “son.” ;p

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Posted by: CrazyDuck.4610

CrazyDuck.4610

Yup mesmers are basically forced to go phantasm build now since no other viable builds are available in PVP.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Yup mesmers are basically forced to go phantasm build now since no other viable builds are available in PVP.

You just keep telling urself that

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