Guild Wars 2

Just a quick question, when traited for iDuelist, its shots become 100% combo finisher. However, the skill says: Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile (20% chance), so why haven’t I ever seen it cause confusion, without the trait?

Have I just been unlucky or something, but I have tried to test this on various occasions, and I haven’t see iDuelist do confounding bolts off of an ethereal field, unless it is traited, in which case it’s 100%.

Can anyone backup or discredit my observation? I just want to know, if it is at all possible for the iDuelist to do a combo finisher, WITHOUT the trait.

Thanks

Are you having it shoot over the field? The tooltip hasn’t updated with the trait since at least oct of last year, it absolutely does stack confusion.

Both over the field and from within the field. I haven’t seen it proc a combo, ever.
And mind you, I am not taking about the trait, this is WITHOUT the trait.

Without trait it’s 20%, with trait it’s 100%. If you havent seen it occur without trait then you just had bad luck.

i have actually experienced the same thing..without the trait it feels like from 10 games there is one situation in which it applies confusion..but i also think the 100% combo finisher should get nerfed..

Well, lets say the 20% would be constant. That would mean 1 out of 5 bullets would proceed the finisher. So what if this enemy blocks/evades/immune’s this 1 shot. That would mean iduelist would need to do 10 shots to get the finisher again. If that person also evades that shot then etc etc etc.
Since evading stuff in this game is quite easy ( especially bullets/projectiles), its no wonder you will see times when it will never apply the finisher.

I’d say the trait is fine if you compare it to other stuff you can pick in the trait line.

This wasn’t a discussion pf the viability of the trait. It is simply a question of, whether or not the iduelist can actually trigger a combo without the trait
And I have tried to put down fields and have the iduelist shoot through it to npcs, which means no dodging or evading and I have yet to see it proc.
The question remains can anyone positively confirm they have seen the dueliist proc a combo WITHOUT the trait. Again this is not about the frickin trait, forget about the trait, don’t factor in the trait! Has anyone seen the duelist do a combo ?
From what you mention Black and Senso you guys have seen it happen?

I have seen it trigger the combo field for me at least once every time I try. This is without trait of course.

Nice, just means I have to keep testing

I guess reading was hard…

BlackDevil.9268:

I guess reading was hard…

I did indeed read your post, you just didn’t answer the question at hand. You did, however, mention things that hadn’t been asked for

BlackDevil.9268:

Well, lets say the 20% would be constant. That would mean 1 out of 5 bullets would proceed the finisher. So what if this enemy blocks/evades/immune’s this 1 shot. That would mean iduelist would need to do 10 shots to get the finisher again. You’re talking probability of duelist making a combo, this is not what was asked, I asked specifically if the duelist CAN combo off of fields

If that person also evades that shot then etc etc etc.
Since evading stuff in this game is quite easy ( especially bullets/projectiles), its no wonder you will see times when it will never apply the finisher. Here you mention things that would get in the way of the duelist comboing, this is still not what was asked, I was asking if it CAN combo at all. Also, regardless if a target evades or dodges, you should still see the combo floater appear.

I’d say the trait is fine if you compare it to other stuff you can pick in the trait line. Post isn’t about the trait

Dietzen.6127:

BlackDevil.9268:

I guess reading was hard…

I did indeed read your post, you just didn’t answer the question at hand. You did, however, mention things that hadn’t been asked for

BlackDevil.9268:

Well, lets say the 20% would be constant. That would mean 1 out of 5 bullets would proceed the finisher. So what if this enemy blocks/evades/immune’s this 1 shot. That would mean iduelist would need to do 10 shots to get the finisher again. You’re talking probability of duelist making a combo, this is not what was asked, I asked specifically if the duelist CAN combo off of fields

If that person also evades that shot then etc etc etc.
Since evading stuff in this game is quite easy ( especially bullets/projectiles), its no wonder you will see times when it will never apply the finisher. Here you mention things that would get in the way of the duelist comboing, this is still not what was asked, I was asking if it CAN combo at all. Also, regardless if a target evades or dodges, you should still see the combo floater appear.

I’d say the trait is fine if you compare it to other stuff you can pick in the trait line. Post isn’t about the trait

No, I first gave you an answer in a previous post which you, amazingly, still didn’t read. The 2nd post, which you read probably 5 times by now, was a reply to sensotix.

I think the easiest way to test is to target a neutral mob at 600 range.

Cast null field on top of yourself. Then immediately cast phantasmal duelist.

It should shoot all of its shots from inside the field.

BlackDevil.9268:

No, I first gave you an answer in a previous post which you, amazingly, still didn’t read. The 2nd post, which you read probably 5 times by now, was a reply to sensotix.

No you didn’t:

BlackDevil.9268:

Without trait it’s 20%, with trait it’s 100%. If you havent seen it occur without trait then you just had bad luck.

Which is just a reiteration of what I myself wrote in the OP:

Dietzen.6127:

Just a quick question, when traited for iDuelist, its shots become 100% combo finisher. However, the skill says: Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile (20% chance), so why haven’t I ever seen it cause confusion, without the trait?
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Aside from the fact that you mention I may have been out of luck, you didn’t answer the question that was posed. Can or can’t the duelist proc a combo.
The only reason I am keeping at this, is due to the fact that I hate it when people can’t answer simple questions.

Person A: “Have you tasted the new McDonalds burger?”
Person B: " Yeah the new predator movie is great"
Person A: “????”
Person B: “Why are you looking at me, like I’m stupid or something?”

I may have been out of luck, doesn’t tell me that you have seen it proc, it doesn’t tell me that the skill can in fact combo off of fields. It just tells me you’ve read the tooltip. So have I, and that’s the reason for this post at all.
I apologize for stirring up an argument though.

eldenbri.1059:

I think the easiest way to test is to target a neutral mob at 600 range.

Cast null field on top of yourself. Then immediately cast phantasmal duelist.

It should shoot all of its shots from inside the field.

This is what I’ve tried to do some times now, and have yet to see it proc. But I am beginning to think it’s just me who’s extremely unlucky.

Wow… Okay, next time i’ll answer with a big ‘’YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS IT CAN’’, to make it clear for you. Holy kitten…

Person A: “Have you tasted the new McDonalds burger?”
Person B: " Yeah the new predator movie is great"
Person A: “????”
Person B: “Why are you looking at me, like I’m stupid or something?”

Makes no sense since I repeat your question and end it as a statement.

Person A: “Does the new McDonaalds burger got 20% less fat?
Person B: " The mcdonalds burger got 20% less fat.‘’
Person A: ’’You didn’t answer my question, does it or not?‘’
Person B: ’’I already said it was 20% less fat, can’t imagine you not being smart enough to get that out of my sentence’’

That’s how it rather goes. I should be the one hating at other people for not reading what people say. Not everything is gonna get answered with a simple ’’yes’’ or ’’no’’. Especially with a 10chars minimum.

BlackDevil.9268:

Wow… Okay, next time i’ll answer with a big ‘’YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS IT CAN’’, to make it clear for you. Holy kitten…

Person A: “Have you tasted the new McDonalds burger?”
Person B: " Yeah the new predator movie is great"
Person A: “????”
Person B: “Why are you looking at me, like I’m stupid or something?”

Makes no sense since I repeat your question and end it as a statement.

Person A: “Does the new McDonaalds burger got 20% less fat?
Person B: " The mcdonalds burger got 20% less fat.‘’
Person A: ’’You didn’t answer my question, does it or not?‘’
Person B: ’’I already said it was 20% less fat, can’t imagine you not being smart enough to get that out of my sentence’’

That’s how it rather goes. I should be the one hating at other people for not reading what people say. Not everything is gonna get answered with a simple ’’yes’’ or ’’no’’. Especially with a 10chars minimum.

“Without trait it’s 20%, with trait it’s 100%. If you havent seen it occur without trait then you just had bad luck.” This is not a yes or a no, it is not an answer. Seriously, the second part of your reply is simply up for interpretation, I have no way of knowing if you just read the tooltip and said, well you must be unlucky. Or if you know for a fact that it can proc. There is no way, and coming from a masters degree, when answering a question, the reply must never be up for interpretation, it should be clear. Your answer was not. It’s really as simple as that.

However, to avoid having the rest of the forum experience our debate, I suggest we agree to disagree and move on. As this isn’t productive in any way or form.

jeeeeeeeeeeesus christ that was the most inane argument I have seen in weeks

to put it to rest, yes untraited duelist can proc combo fields.

colesy.8490:

jeeeeeeeeeeesus christ that was the most inane argument I have seen in weeks

to put it to rest, yes untraited duelist can proc combo fields.

Like this guy said, The Predator movie now has 20% less fat.