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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

I’m not really one to pry for phant buffs in anyway. In fact I have rather negative thoughts regarding the core phant builds.

But does anyone use this? I could see it being slightly useful for Warden, but according to the wiki doesn’t work with certain phants is this just a bug?

Also some of the numbers I think are wrong… Math is not my strong suit so I may be wrong but Izerker for example is only .4 seconds faster I’m pretty sure that’s not 20%?

I can kind of understand swordsman going under 3 seconds would be bad…

Suggestion. Solid numbers (or .5 like 5.5, or 6.5, 7.5, ect.) rebalance times lol Mage @ 6 seconds. Then fix the trait so it is actually 20%.

Unless I’m missing something, then please enlighten me guys.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

It’s still buggy as usual but very good for some of the Phantasms. Especially Swordsman benefits a lot, constant leap-finishers.

Downside is the placement. Plus once you’re there you really want to go 25 deep for IC, and then you are left with only 45 points to use. This “locks” your build, as you want 25 in Inspiration for all the core phantasms traits, then 10 in domination and 10 in duelling for +15% damage and +Fury.

Very powerful Phantasms, but very weak otherwise. Plus your Phantasms don’t proc bleeds, which is highly annoying. Still, I don’t think 10/10/0/25/25 would be weaker than 10/15/0/25/20.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Swordsmen don’t benefit at all. It doesn’t work wih them.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

Uh? It used to work at least one time when I tried, lowering the attack-interval to 3,2 seconds.

Just checked wiki, it says 3,2s is baseline. Has this always been that way? I ran the trait for a long time, and I could have sworn it was 4,0s without it.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Uh? It used to work at least one time when I tried, lowering the attack-interval to 3,2 seconds.

Just checked wiki, it says 3,2s is baseline. Has this always been that way? I ran the trait for a long time, and I could have sworn it was 4,0s without it.

I personally provided the numbers for the phantasmal haste wiki page, and I did that quite a few months ago. To my knowledge it has never worked.

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Posted by: Clockwork Bard.3105

Clockwork Bard.3105

I do use it, but not for full phantasm builds. If I’ve got 25+ in Illusions and Chaotic Dampening in a build, I’ll handle tougher group battles by quick dropping a triad of warlocks. Faster attacks also means they’re more likely to squeeze out another shot before I explode them, which I think is more the intent of it being in the Illusions line.

If those times are right, it really does need normalizing or fixing. Badly. I like doubling up on swords, and if swordsman is getting nothing, that’s broken. Meanwhile, warlock getting closer to a 35% speed boost is also pretty messed up for a phantasm that already hits like a truck. I’ll happily abuse it. But it’s still messed up.

Random musing: A more interesting implementation might be something like: “When shattered, phantasms perform one last attack.” Maybe toss on a run speed buff too so they don’t lag too far behind. Something like that might integrate phantasms better into an Illusions oriented build. But warden might have issues with that. Ah well.

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

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Pretty sure anything less than 3 sec for I-swordsman would be pretty broken anyways.

But my gripe is still more with the others.

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Posted by: Clockwork Bard.3105

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If it were a flat 20% all around, it would not benefit Swordman more than other things. 20% faster is 20% faster. For the 3.2 second Swordsman, that’s about 0.53 seconds shaved off. For the 5.57 Warlock, that’s about 0.93 seconds off. If 20% is too much (and I’m open to the possibility that it is), then that’s fine, but a percentage is a percentage, whether the target number is big or small. I don’t see a benefit to excluding certain phantasms.