Guild Wars 2

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Berserker
appreciate at least after more than 1 year its now showing the skill co-efficienties.. and more detailed tooltips..
i shouted it much to being transparent to anet..
but still phantasms are wrong? Why?

• A) i am making mistake with calculation
• B) anet try to hoodwink
• C) its bug.. that anet hasnt recognize yet
• D) None of these..

my answer B).. my calculation is approximetly total 2.11 co-efficient not 3.2 and works as Warriors Whirlwind Attack(evade dunno) hitting 2 to 4 hits how far in range of targets point

The tooltips are totally wrong at some phantasms yes. Not long ago the warden dealt 100 damage … hue hue (talking about ingame)
Just ignore the numbers that are noted and be happy about the big numbers you see.

Also, be aware that multiple cooldown reductions (any weapon CD trait + Illusionist’s Celerity) DO stack, but the tooltip only shows the reduction from one of them.

Xyonon.3987:

The tooltips are totally wrong at some phantasms yes. Not long ago the warden dealt 100 damage … hue hue (talking about ingame)
Just ignore the numbers that are noted and be happy about the big numbers you see.

sorry but i dont understand? what is 100 damage? which phantasms corrects? big numbers? i hit 1.5 milion to rabbit?

It’s because rabbits have no armor – I’m not sure but I remember that the tooltip number is correct on an enemy with 2000 armor …? Was 2000 medium? or 1500? xD dunno anymore :P

i mean move your mouse to phantasmal berserker what it shows as x4 ….
what is that tool-tip izerkers damage mean your direct avarage damage on 2600 armor without any critic hits, conditions with izerker… calculated with power/level stat..

so phantasmal berserker SHOW %50 MORE DAMAGE than it hits on that tool tip..
as i know that we are not in Beta or Alpha ?

so again asking the same question

• A) i am making mistake with calculation
• B) anet try to hoodwink
• C) its bug.. that anet hasnt recognize yet
• D) None of these..

Late answer sry. So I tested the damage of all the DD Phantasms without any multiplicative boni on the dummies in Lion’s Arch:

iSwordsman

• Tooltip…: 1700
• Dummie: 2100
  (23.5% difference)

iWarlock

• Tooltip…: 600
• Dummie: 1800
  (200% difference)

iDuellist

• Tooltip…: 350
• Dummie: 2300
  (557.1% difference)

iWarden

• Tooltip…: 1000
• Dummie: 3700
  (270% difference)

iBerserker

• Tooltip…: 800
• Dummie: 2600
  (225% difference)

The tooltips simply make no sense at all …

I dont know whats Dummy`s armor in LA,
its better to do on Heavy golem who has 2600 armor in HoTM(PvP Side)
[However the tool-tips calculated with 2600 armor/power*skill co-efficient for phantasms]
and ignore crits, conditions, damage multipliers, buffs(boons), weapon Strength(however if u use naked handed phantasms skill it should use regular lvl 80 exotic weapon by nature)

Dummies are puppets you can hit and they don’t die. :P The armor doesn’t matter in a damage calculation like this, nor your equip. The % difference between tooltip and reality between the different phantasms will allways be the same since the whole damage calculation is multiplicative.

If you use phantasms naked they’ll use rare equip. If you wear exo, ascended or legendary they’ll use exo.

(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AohSpGgKCVZ7dE5lUnVXOEVQNEZrQnRyUUt0VWk4ZFE&single=true&gid=0&output=html)

omg Xyonon.. What i am talking about, what u say anyway u dont know what u say aswell..

i SAY TOOL TIP IS WRONG ON PHANTASMS…
mean the direct damage u see is not correct…
where other skills mostly correct..

• What is that direct damage u seen on that skill phantasms..
  http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2_Wiki:Damage_calculation
  and for tool tips calculation should be show for 2600 armor..

and if u use naked or excotic or lvl 1 or lvl 80 any weapon it doesnt effect phantasms.. either PvE or PvP..

so this should be correct.. or we can say its bug..
so again asking the same question

• A) i am making mistake with calculation [No][if yes pls remind]
• B) anet try to hoodwink [Yes][proof ? long history]
• C) its bug.. that anet hasnt recognize yet [after more than 1 year?, or what? yes we are not alpha or beta]
• D) None of these.. [¿] [so what brainstorm :P] (except u Xyonon pls)

Do you allways start flaming if you don’t understand what somone else wrote?

I did never say that the direct damage is wrong. I said since the beginning that the tooltip is wrong. I tested for you the phantasms damage with what equip ever, it won’t matter as I tried to figure out the difference between the difference between two pahntasms and their tooltips.

If the difference a phantasm and it’s tooltip has is the same as another phantasm and it’s tooltip, then there is a calculation behind it. You clearly can see that each phantasm is differently wrong according to their tooltip.
This proves that there is a text bug in the tooltips.

I don’t have to test this against 2600 armor targets since math works like this in that specific situation. Even if you had 5’000 power or just 1’000, if the target had 5’000 armor or 0 – it wouldn’t matter for my calculations.

If you are unable to understand what I am trying to tell you, you should just ask and not flame, since I’m just trying to help.

Greez

calavel.6249:

Also, be aware that multiple cooldown reductions (any weapon CD trait + Illusionist’s Celerity) DO stack, but the tooltip only shows the reduction from one of them.

yes it is as u say now.
before as i remember.. (*verification required) 2 traits with %20 %20 on GS phantasm was not working both..