Guild Wars 2

so in general, Veil lasts for 6 seconds and when I run through it I get 4 second stealth which means I have 2 second gap to reapply stealth again. So it’s totally 8 second stealth. Cool. But the problem is when I equip Prismatic Understanding, stealth now lasts 5 seconds and it makes it almost impossible to get the second stealth unless I pop Veil right at where I’m standing so that I get stealth right away and then I have 1 second to run through the glamour again.

It’s not quite okay during the fight where I have to keep running because usually I have to pop Veil ahead of me (and I guess that’s how we’re supposed to do it?) which pretty much wastes the first 1 second to get to the glamour. So it’s Veil, 1 second for running through, 5 seconds in stealth. gone, no second stealth. The accumulated time of stealth is decreased from 8 to 5. It’s a bit icky.

I know that trait give you boons and stuff and you can gain the second stealth by breaking the first stealth before 5 seconds but I’m just asking about how are we gonna utilize the full duration of stealth.

Anyone also having trouble with this?

The skill is meant to be used as a party wide stealth skill, while also being a combo field. The fact that it allows you to stealth twice is just a nice bonus really. I’m very sure ArenaNet made the skill this way on purpose, so the Mesmer wouldn’t have 10 seconds of stealth.

I run Veil with Prismatic Understanding and I can usually get both stealths quite reliably. Although I must say Veil is not a great skill to use solo.

Personally, I just don’t like veil. It’s nice to have an extra group invis but it’s too similar to Mass Invis for overall effect.

Plus, look at the only other utility group Invis, Shadow Refuge.

-Up to 15s Stealth (ours is 4, 8 if you manage to get back into it after the first time it falls).
-Better coverage (ours is a line, theirs is a circle)
-Faster CD (60 vs 90s)
-Added Heal effect

Yea, I know different professions and all of that… But veil just seems so weak.

Dastion.3106:

Yea, I know different professions and all of that… But veil just seems so weak.

As a skill for a solo mesmer, you’re quite right. Try using veil as part of a decent size organised group sometime.

Dastion.3106:

Personally, I just don’t like veil. It’s nice to have an extra group invis but it’s too similar to Mass Invis for overall effect.

Plus, look at the only other utility group Invis, Shadow Refuge.

-Up to 15s Stealth (ours is 4, 8 if you manage to get back into it after the first time it falls).
-Better coverage (ours is a line, theirs is a circle)
-Faster CD (60 vs 90s)
-Added Heal effect

Yea, I know different professions and all of that… But veil just seems so weak.

Yeah if both were unbuffed, shadow refuge wins. But you can’t trait refuge anywhere near what you can trait veil. With SoS on there bar, and Refuge, alot of thieves don’t leave alot of room for utility. Some of them might take the trade, veil for refuge.