Guild Wars 2

I’m currently doubting between a mesmer or a thief for WvW roaming but with the elite specs released I’m not sure anymore which of both classes is best for WvW roaming.

I came back to GW maybe a month ago and have been busy doing PvP and some HoT but I used to be a long-time engie roamer.

I’d like to try a mesmer roaming build but I have no clue if there are any good ones?

Could anyone point me in the right direction?

My condition mesmer is just a monster in wvw. I am ticking at 26 thousand health, I build a asusra, so I have the radiation field. Last thief that tried to gank me got schooled when I dropped the radiation field right on top of me. Then the fun really began, when I threw the condition’s they tried to hit me with right back at em.

Just youtube condition mesmer 2016. I based my build off of that, then tweaked it to my play style. I just can not stress enough, Get Travlers Runes, any thing else, and your mesmer is just WAY to slow.

Best thing with my PU mesmer, 3 or 4 try and gank me, I stealth out, and I am long gone.

PU condi, unless you want to auto-die to HoT clown builds.

Alright thanks guys I will check that out

Question though – are there any viable chronomancy builds or is PU stil the way to go?
I’d love to use the new specialization but if it’s not viable compared to PU I might just try that + I’m a sucker for condi-builds so that’s a plus!

I guess it depends on your definition of viability. There are chrono condition builds.

However, since you’ll want to take Dueling for obvious reasons, your third line will be your bottleneck. You can either take Chaos and lose out on confusion-on-shatter, confu duration +33%, torment-on-shatter (Maim the Disillusioned), torch trait (cleanse and more stealth), and either Ineptitude or scepter trait.

Or you can take Dueling and lose out on protection & regen at 75% health, increased condition duration based on boons, projectile reflect on Manipulation skills, increased condi dmg based on 10% of your toughness (or staff trait), and increased stealth duration plus random boons while stealthed.

Aside from faster shatters, the main gain from Chrono for a condi roamer is being able to bypass Travelers as your rune. Mobility is everything; there aren’t as many solo roamers (at least in my tier) as there are zergs and gank squads. PU condi has more “outs” to disengage at will and will be more comfortable in a 1v2-3 scenario.

tym.3791:

My condition mesmer is just a monster in wvw. I am ticking at 26 thousand health, I build a asusra, so I have the radiation field. Last thief that tried to gank me got schooled when I dropped the radiation field right on top of me. Then the fun really began, when I threw the condition’s they tried to hit me with right back at em.

Just youtube condition mesmer 2016. I based my build off of that, then tweaked it to my play style. I just can not stress enough, Get Travlers Runes, any thing else, and your mesmer is just WAY to slow.

Best thing with my PU mesmer, 3 or 4 try and gank me, I stealth out, and I am long gone.

Hi, could you please link your build or your video? I couldnt determine which was yours on Youtube. I just started out on mesmer and could do with all the help that i can get.

This should get you a good start, and like I said, you may have to tweak your traits around a bit to better fit your play style. I myself keep Blink, and leave a clone behind while you go into stealth, and then either radiation field, or return conditions to enemy.

I’m currently running the metabattle PU roaming build
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_PU_Condi_Roamer

Tried some roaming / duels yesterday and got killed (not bigtime, managed to stay alive very long) but I just couldn’t kill my targets..

Is this build good or can it be improved?
What are some important combos or vital skills to use?

As you can see I’m not at all very good at mesmer
(eventhough I’ve had one for a long time, mostly for zerging though)

I’ve watched numerous videos too but well I just can’t seem to get it.
I normally learn classes pretty fast – I’m good with necro, even before the whole Reaper = OP thing, been good with engi roaming, thief roaming.
But I just fail hard at mesmer but I’d really love to be good because I really like the class.

Any tips and/or improvements for above mentionned build?

Thanks in advance!

Logicx.5832:

I’m currently running the metabattle PU roaming build
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_PU_Condi_Roamer

Tried some roaming / duels yesterday and got killed (not bigtime, managed to stay alive very long) but I just couldn’t kill my targets..

Is this build good or can it be improved?
What are some important combos or vital skills to use?

As you can see I’m not at all very good at mesmer
(eventhough I’ve had one for a long time, mostly for zerging though)

I’ve watched numerous videos too but well I just can’t seem to get it.
I normally learn classes pretty fast – I’m good with necro, even before the whole Reaper = OP thing, been good with engi roaming, thief roaming.
But I just fail hard at mesmer but I’d really love to be good because I really like the class.

Any tips and/or improvements for above mentionned build?

Thanks in advance!

One of the main issues with this build is the condi cleansing, which is very low. You must be very careful at condi burst, because it is easy to die at what you excel.

The build is not actualized and can be improved quite a bit.
First is to take Chronomancer. The alacrity, the quickness, the shield and the F5 paired with Mass Invisibility are big wins. For that you will have to lose one of the lines, and I find Chaos the least worse lost of all 3, you already have a lot of toughness and vitality so the defensive boons aren’t that useful as, for example, a power shatter. PU lost? Now you get double MI so it shouldn’t be such of a problem.

Then, I find sword/torch – scepter/shield a much better option. Staff is only good for the AA and Phase retreat, but the rest it’s quite meh, and it can become very annoying with stealth as it’s easy to get revealed since AA bounces a lot.

Ansau.7326:

Logicx.5832:

I’m currently running the metabattle PU roaming build
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_PU_Condi_Roamer

Tried some roaming / duels yesterday and got killed (not bigtime, managed to stay alive very long) but I just couldn’t kill my targets..

Is this build good or can it be improved?
What are some important combos or vital skills to use?

As you can see I’m not at all very good at mesmer
(eventhough I’ve had one for a long time, mostly for zerging though)

I’ve watched numerous videos too but well I just can’t seem to get it.
I normally learn classes pretty fast – I’m good with necro, even before the whole Reaper = OP thing, been good with engi roaming, thief roaming.
But I just fail hard at mesmer but I’d really love to be good because I really like the class.

Any tips and/or improvements for above mentionned build?

Thanks in advance!

One of the main issues with this build is the condi cleansing, which is very low. You must be very careful at condi burst, because it is easy to die at what you excel.

The build is not actualized and can be improved quite a bit.
First is to take Chronomancer. The alacrity, the quickness, the shield and the F5 paired with Mass Invisibility are big wins. For that you will have to lose one of the lines, and I find Chaos the least worse lost of all 3, you already have a lot of toughness and vitality so the defensive boons aren’t that useful as, for example, a power shatter. PU lost? Now you get double MI so it shouldn’t be such of a problem.

Then, I find sword/torch – scepter/shield a much better option. Staff is only good for the AA and Phase retreat, but the rest it’s quite meh, and it can become very annoying with stealth as it’s easy to get revealed since AA bounces a lot.

Oh thanks – that’s actually quite good to know because I actually hoped there’d be a chronomancer roaming build.

As for your reasoning on the weapons – I can’t agree more because those 3 fights I lost I noticed I popped out of stealth so much and now that you mention it, it might’ve been the Staff AA for sure.

Only downside about Chronomancer is that I’ll have to get all the hero points again…
But oh well it’ll be worth it.

edit:

to an extent would you mind linking or quickly noting down the build you’d suggest?
Mainly the traits would be helpful
as for armor stats/runes you could just quickly note suggestions

Also any tips for skill combo’s or just general build use tips?
At this moment I just spam skills and shatters (whenever I have 3 clones).

This is the build I’d use: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQRAsf7ensIClphNqBGpBcrhlXjqeYT2nFNAypmocC6toB-TVyCABZp8jiTAge6HWe/BcU/RiDCwxPAAAOCAJqEkUAQMNC-w

For condi cleansing you can get either Mantra of Resolve or Null Field, first is better for condis with lots of stacks, second is better for multi condi appliance.
In traits you can also go Evasive Mirror+Master of Fragmentation instead of Blinding Dissipation+Ineptitude.
Stats is a mix of Rabid and Dire. Dire brings more survivability and it’s better for begginers, rabid is more offensive with slightly more direct damage and illusions will apply more bleeding.
Any of those sigils work very well with this build, also Sigil of Geomancy and Sigil of Draining with shield (but it’s locked behind HoT pve farming).
For runes Perplexity, Undead and Scavenging are the best options.

Ansau.7326:

This is the build I’d use: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQRAsf7ensIClphNqBGpBcrhlXjqeYT2nFNAypmocC6toB-TVyCABZp8jiTAge6HWe/BcU/RiDCwxPAAAOCAJqEkUAQMNC-w

For condi cleansing you can get either Mantra of Resolve or Null Field, first is better for condis with lots of stacks, second is better for multi condi appliance.
In traits you can also go Evasive Mirror+Master of Fragmentation instead of Blinding Dissipation+Ineptitude.
Stats is a mix of Rabid and Dire. Dire brings more survivability and it’s better for begginers, rabid is more offensive with slightly more direct damage and illusions will apply more bleeding.
Any of those sigils work very well with this build, also Sigil of Geomancy and Sigil of Draining with shield (but it’s locked behind HoT pve farming).
For runes Perplexity, Undead and Scavenging are the best options.

Can’t thank you enough – really!
Thanks for the effort man!

It’s amazing though how condi-builds keep being good for roaming.
Now to “Git gud” with it!

tym.3791:

My condition mesmer is just a monster in wvw. I am ticking at 26 thousand health, I build a asusra, so I have the radiation field. Last thief that tried to gank me got schooled when I dropped the radiation field right on top of me. Then the fun really began, when I threw the condition’s they tried to hit me with right back at em.

Just youtube condition mesmer 2016. I based my build off of that, then tweaked it to my play style. I just can not stress enough, Get Travlers Runes, any thing else, and your mesmer is just WAY to slow.

Best thing with my PU mesmer, 3 or 4 try and gank me, I stealth out, and I am long gone.

What’s your full build?

I’ve recently (a week ago is that) started using this build and been tweaking to my play style. I’m running full dire but still feel squishy. Ive recently swapped staff (I will miss the #2 (teleport) but the shield does bring more survivability utility (I can actually do something when someone is being stealth stomped now…stun FTW). I feel as if my condi damage isn’t doing as much as I expect and looking for feedback. I love the scepter and max stealth is a must (The veil has a wayyy to high CD for it to be worth taking it). For the #7 utility, I typically run either that or feedback (pending if im going up vs a pewpew thief/druid).

I came across a condi/dps trapper druid last night (stealth every 3 seconds, pain in the kitten and I feel I should have been able to beat him but he out stealthed me and due to him beign able to position himself better than I could, out DPS’d me (my saving grace was feedback for delaying everything). He was fast (LB/Staff) and stealthy and hurt. Any tips for facing something that stealth’s more than you and has no problem keeping you at range?

Keep in mind I was using staff at the time (hense the shield now but haven’t seen him since) and I haven’t used my Mez/Chrono actively for over 2 years (picked him up to get chrono then dropped him again). Noob part on me is I used to run trapper ranger so the condi/traps are no problem (clones triggering traps ftw) but I can’t seem to get close enough or when I do, he stealths away and quickly repositions himself. WHen I was able to get him with my scepter 3 and a couple AA’s, the condis ate him until he CA’d and cleansed them.

Any tips?

Also can get bursted down by thieves/daredevils despite being dire. (please no git gud posts, obv im not pro as I even stated I haven’t played this toon in a long time so its obv that I need to get better, hense why I am asking for tips shut down)