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Posted by: Rok.5260

Rok.5260

Do Mesmers use Rampager Gear? If so, what builds?

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

We had a discussion on this topic here not long ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Berzerkers-vs-Rampagers-on-Phantasm-builds/

The conclusion was that almost all phantasm builds would benefit from using rampagers in solo play. BUT, and it’s a very big but – in teamplay, the condition cap, and the fact you’d be consuming that cap with sub-par condition damage would result in a net decrease in party DPS if you had any condition specialists with you like necros.

Given how easy solo play is, it’s generally inadvisable to waste the gold obtaining a rampager’s set in the first place and stick to full zerkers for PvE

The Ashwalker – Ranger
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Posted by: Rok.5260

Rok.5260

Ok thank you

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Posted by: bobross.5034

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I think it’s more complicated than that…
Ryuujin’s answer certainly is true for PvE…although there is one issue-assuming you go with a zerker build, but you still have traits/weapons that cause conditions, then you still run into the issue of overwriting other’s conditions. The difference is that, rather than overwrite them with suboptimal conditions, you’re overwriting them with mediocre conditions. So to really play nice in PVE, the important thing would be to play in a way that results in few conditions – don’t use staff when playing with a necro. Don’t take traits that allow your clones/phantasms to cause bleeds…which means no dueling… Basically as a mesmer, it is hard to do this.

Either way, I just carry around several sets of armor anyway, so if you already have zerker’s, there’s nothing wrong with trying rampagers and just swapping out if you’re grouped with a necro. The same build should work with both sets.

I do think a zerker set makes sense as a first step – though honestly I don’t run either rampager or zerker gear on my mesmer…since I like to roam in wvw, and like to play a tankier build…I’m almost always using rabid. clerics or p/v/t. I’m not going for max dps of course.

In PvP/WvW you rarely get 25 stacks of bleeds on a single opponent for long, and if you do, they’re in pretty big trouble, whether you’re overwriting a necro’s bleeds or not. Poison and fire are potentially a different story, but they stack duration anyway…right?

Personally, I’m excited about this celestial gear. I think mesmers, more than other professions are in a great place to take advantage of them. Almost all stats benefit almost every mesmer build.

(edited by bobross.5034)

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

Well as I say in my post this refers to PvE (And given solo PvE can be beaten with a bent rusty spoon, any advice usually refers to PvE dungeons)

PvP is another story entirely; condition builds are completely viable in PvP (In fact my favourite sPvP builds are condition orientated).

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Posted by: Godmoney.2048

Godmoney.2048

Rampager is one of my favorite specs for glass cannon shatter builds. The only trait I really change is the +33% confusion duration.

You’re damage in full rampager isn’t much less than zerker. I mean it is less on the front end but you get more in the back end with confusion procs.

Either zerker shatter or rampager shatter you’re going to be glassy and bursty.